Kingfisher 1770 1:48 POF
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The blocks in the photos above and the rigging of them is superb! David relies lot on Caruana's two volumes with very good reason as Caruana was considered by many the number one expert on English sea ordnance. For those that did not know the block combination of when singles and a second single or a double block was used applies to both the running out and train rigging. I may have missed this in an earlier post so my apologies if I did, but did you make the blocks or are they from an after market source? They are beautiful.
Can you share your friend Frank's source for this application? This was a new one for me and I would love to read more about it. THANK YOU.
Allan
I purchased these from DryDock. I tried to make some for my Vasa and was getting mixed results. I think I could make them now that I have a mill but I can't dispute the quality I get from DryDock...
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They really do look good!!! Thanks Paul. very much appreciated
Good binding between the blocks and the recoil ropes are pleasing. And what do you blacken brass with? Are there gaps, or is this an artistic moment?)) There are products for bluing brass, they blacken very beautifully. They are sold in gun shops.Work continues on the display guns...with my attitude going from bad to worse as the next unavoidable task was rigging. Have I mentioned that gun rigging is my least favorite aspect of model ship construction
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I find those 'third hand' clamping tools to be unhelpful, so for the Vasa I made this simple jig that allows me to hold what I am working on firmly in place:
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In the image above I am seizing the 'knot' that connects the breech line to an eyebolt.
In the image below the breech line has been attached to the cascabel. And at the prompting of my forum friend Frank, I have added some axle straps to the side of the carriage. Whether these would have been used for this light 6 lb. gun is uncertain - but I do like the visual enhancement to the gun carriage. They might also be anachronistic; my research was mixed:
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Next, I turned my attention to the out-haul tackles (I will not model in-haul tackles). Even at 1:48 these present a challenge of scale. The blocks would have been 5" or 6" blocks in real life so 3 mm boxwood blocks were selected. Antscherl argues that the customary pairing of a single block and a double block was only used when guns exceeded 32 lbs. To that end I have used two single blocks.
Handling small blocks isn't easy so I used this arrangement:
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Here are the blocks ready to go...
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Or so I thought. In the end I remade almost everything you see above in order to make things less bulky. I wanted to show the out-haul tackle as if the guns were housed and by the time I did the frapping it looked pretty sad.
Here is the upgraded version:
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Here is one of the guns on the ship with its tackle in place and the breech line just sitting loose:
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Of course, this configuration is nonsense because the gun tackle would not be frapped while the gun was hauled out and ready - but neither did I want rope coils on my admiralty model. Compromises abound on this ship.
I have now stored all four guns pending their final installation at a (much) later date.
Thanks for stopping by!
Indeed, there are flaws in the burnishing from manipulating the hooks during fabrication. These will need to be addressed prior to final installation.
Have you tried using copper instead of brass for the hooks? It can be blackened with diluted liver of sulfur even after they are rigged to the lines without staining the rope itself. It is instantaneous so you can see that you have treated the entire piece of wire. The downside is that it is soft compared to brass so high tension on the line will affect the hook itself, but for gun rigging there is no reason to put a lot of pressure on these.
Allan
Allan
Thank you, Allan. I actually do have a number of copper components on the model but have never tried liver of sulfur.
These particular hooks are brass, but they came 'pre-blackened' on a photo-etched sheet. I have become quite proficient at blackening using Casey's and should have stripped these and re-blackened them. Alas, I accepted the short cut offered and immediately regretted it. Live and learn (though if memory serves, I've actually learned this lesson previously).
It is much easier to use and goes a long long way compared to Casey's and other agents. It will not blacken brass so when I need to use brass I now use Caseys as you do. Blacken It was my go-to for years but it is my understanding that it was a husband and wife venture that has been closed for a few years now.
Allan
I have the same thing on my eyebolts where the blackening has worn off the corners of the photo-etched brass. I like the effect, despite knowing it's not 'accurate' (a word I always need to place in scare quotes
). It adds to my feeling of antiquity about the model, the ship.
True story
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Ahhhh I am sorry Paul ... but ... I have to criticize something small ... the eyebolts at the carriages are way to oversized and the ring is made from too thin brass rod/wire ... it looks wrong .. sorry!!
PS: The carriage are eye pleasing though!
Dirk
PS: The carriage are eye pleasing though!
Dirk
Good afternoon Paul. Your least favourite part of your Kingfisher is successfully and beautifully completed. I love your rings and hooks, scale and finish-Kudos. I also prefer the frapped tackle and on an admiralty model makes "inaccurate" sense - in my view a necessary compromise. Cheers GrantWork continues on the display guns...with my attitude going from bad to worse as the next unavoidable task was rigging
I find those 'third hand' clamping tools to be unhelpful, so for the Vasa I made this simple jig that allows me to hold what I am working on firmly in place:
View attachment 481141
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In the image above I am seizing the 'knot' that connects the breech line to an eyebolt.
In the image below the breech line has been attached to the cascabel. And at the prompting of my forum friend Frank, I have added some axle straps to the side of the carriage. Whether these would have been used for this light 6 lb. gun is uncertain - but I do like the visual enhancement to the gun carriage. They might also be anachronistic; my research was mixed:
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Next, I turned my attention to the out-haul tackles (I will not model in-haul tackles). Even at 1:48 these present a challenge of scale. The blocks would have been 5" or 6" blocks in real life so 3 mm boxwood blocks were selected. Antscherl argues that the customary pairing of a single block and a double block was only used when guns exceeded 32 lbs. To that end I have used two single blocks.
Handling small blocks isn't easy so I used this arrangement:
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Here are the blocks ready to go...
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Or so I thought. In the end I remade almost everything you see above in order to make things less bulky. I wanted to show the out-haul tackle as if the guns were housed and by the time I did the frapping it looked pretty sad.
Here is the upgraded version:
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Here is one of the guns on the ship with its tackle in place and the breech line just sitting loose:
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Of course, this configuration is nonsense because the gun tackle would not be frapped while the gun was hauled out and ready - but neither did I want rope coils on my admiralty model. Compromises abound on this ship.
I have now stored all four guns pending their final installation at a (much) later date.
Thanks for stopping by!
No need to apologize, Dirk. What is obvious to your trained eye is less obvious to my untrained one. Besides, your critique gives me one more reason to despise rigging guns on ship models. I'm approaching 20 reasons right now. If I hit 25 I'm going to build a canoe modelAhhhh I am sorry Paul ... but ... I have to criticize something small ... the eyebolts at the carriages are way to oversized and the ring is made from too thin brass rod/wire ... it looks wrong .. sorry!!
PS: The carriage are eye pleasing though!
Dirk
.Criticisms are always welcome on this build report. I may not always change something (in this case I might just have to) but I don't take my work very seriously so you (and others) won't hurt my feelings.
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Besides, your critique gives me one more reason to despise rigging guns on ship models. I'm approaching 20 reasons right now. If I hit 25 I'm going to build a canoe model
Guess you will never never build the Victory (as I won't too for the same reasons)
Dirk
Consider that a promise!
never say...never, you never knowGuess you will never never build the Victory (as I won't too for the same reasons)
Dirk
No need to apologize, Dirk. What is obvious to your trained eye is less obvious to my untrained one. Besides, your critique gives me one more reason to despise rigging guns on ship models. I'm approaching 20 reasons right now. If I hit 25 I'm going to build a canoe model
Hang in there Paul! I think I have a cast cannon model behind breakable glass for emergencies for similar situations.
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what's needed is a real POF Victory with option to rig if so desired. Now that would be an interesting undertaking.
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are these the oversized parts ?FrankAhhhh I am sorry Paul ... but ... I have to criticize something small ... the eyebolts at the carriages are way to oversized and the ring is made from too thin brass rod/wire ... it looks wrong .. sorry!!
PS: The carriage are eye pleasing though!
Dirk
