For some reason I am not a fan of making carriages/guns - and rigging them is the absolute worst part of ship modeling.
There. I said it.
Yep! I agree on that one
.But you have done a beautiful job on those carriages Paul
Kingfisher 1770 1:48 POF
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Yep! I agree on that one
.But you have done a beautiful job on those carriages Paul
I now expect nothing less from our very own superhero, ‘Doc Timber’.
Thank you very much, gentlemen. And to many more for the likes.
Allan, I had to do a bit of research to figure out what carriages would have been like with these lightweight 6 lb. guns. As far as I can tell the carriages were all about the same in design but perhaps a bit smaller as the gun got smaller. Or maybe not...
Wojitas, they have a first coat of finish and will get one or two more. But the boxwood lacks grain so it won't get too interesting...
Indeed, I believe you are presently in gun making purgatory...(?).Yep! I agree on that one
But you have done a beautiful job on those carriages Paul
Thanks for the nice posts guys!
I have seen the monogram rendered in metal but only on cast guns. I had two options for my CNC/turned guns (well, three if leaving the monogram off is counted as one on my options).
First, you can get the carriage and gun photoetch sheet from Zoly at DryDock - and on that sheet there is a brass emblem:
Photo-Etch Gun Carriage Detailing Set for Gun Carriage Kit/40mm Cannons 4sets/bag
Dry - Dock Models & Parts is providing high quality ship model fittings and parts
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This is a very nice set that he offers (be sure to order the size that corresponds to your scale and gun size). My trials turned out very nice.
But for a number of different reasons (mostly solder related) I went in another direction. Here is a laser board version of an English monogram from another supplier:
Laser Board Monograms
Because I had 'blackened' the gun barrel (Casey's) which leaves a gunmetal finish, and these monograms are black, it was necessary to follow-up with graphite powder to get the insignia to blend in. I was satisfied with the result, and I commend it to anyone wanting to add this detail.
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Nothing special here Michael. I used a sharp awl to mark the places to drill - drilled a hole to the precise size of my brass wire - carefully slid the wire into place - and then filed/sanded everything smooth. Unsurprisingly, it took more than 16 attempts to get 16 good trucks (wheels).
By the way, if you want to see trucks that make mine look like a child made them then check out this masterclass by Jim:
Making trucks for your cannon carriages
Greeting everyone. Today, I will show you a couple of ways to make your own tracks (wheels) for cannon carriages. How many times we saw the tracks supplied with the kit are out of scale, made with plywood, and not perfectly round both outside and inside? Those required some improvements so they...
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Once...before...I made a 3-part review about the naval guns; their carriages, barrels and PE parts to make a complete gun including the rigging. All the parts from our friend DryDock Models and Parts mentioned above by @dockattner Paul. You may check, the links are below.
Parts review - Aftermarket naval guns parts to upscale, Part 1/3
* there is no copyright on any images in this review Let's face it...How many of us have been disappointed with the cannons supplied in the kits? Personally, I found that manufacturers don't pay enough attention to cannon details. Often, the carriages are out of scale and made from cast metal...
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Parts review - Aftermarket naval guns parts to upscale, Part 2/3
Greetings all. This is way long past-due log of Part 2 of 3 series: Accesories\Uspscale mini kits of naval guns. To those of you who came directly to this post, please follow the below link to get familiar with our discussion about aftermarket naval gun mini kits...
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Parts review - Aftermarket naval guns parts to upscale, Part 3/3
"Raise your words not your voice, it is rain that grows flowers, not thunder." Greetings all. This is Part 3 of 3 series log Accesories\Uspscale mini kits of naval guns. It is not the typical review, where the review subject is giving evaluation, it is rather the parts 'in action', In other...
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Very well made carriages and guns. Very neat and precise, I like it.
I am and I think you have chosen the perfect word for the process - purgatory
.Hi Paul
The dimensions do vary with caliber. https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/making-cannon.14545/page-3
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Did you make the guns? If you are interested in Armstrong Frederick pattern barrels which would be appropriate for 1770 I can send 3D drawings and the name of a 3D printer that has done great work at very favorable prices. The collection of drawings so far has all the British patterns and calibers from about 1625 to 1810 and a couple Spanish patterns.
Allan
Thank you for this nice offer, Allan. I'm not quite ready to start incorporating printed items on my builds. I'll get there some day...
Thank you, Sergey!
I totally understand and admire your choice. There are other choices that you might find interesting in the future to get the appropriate pattern barrel. There is the possibility of having a master barrel printed and use it to make a plaster mold then cast metal barrels as was done on the actual guns or use the printed master to make a silicone mold and cast resin barrels. This makes every pattern, size, amd scale available. Cast Blomefield pattern barrel pic below. This was before 3D printing was readily available so I made a brass master that had the loop and GR3 badge and then made the mold with it.
Allan
Stunningly beautiful workmanship, Paul. Your build is on another level which some of us will never achieve but following you is inspirational.Once again, I seem to be wandering about the ship working randomly on things that need to be accomplished before the forecastle and quarter decks can be permanently installed. This week I worked on gun carriages and guns...
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For some reason I don't use a lot of jigs - but I chose to for the carriages:
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There will only be four guns on the Kingfisher, and they will sit in the waist.
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The guns themselves are secondary market CNC brass. I added an insignia and wanted to add a vent field, but I couldn't quite manage it. I my take another run at that (or maybe not):
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The finished product:
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And now sitting loose on the "deck":
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These four guns will be fully rigged so now we wait for boxwood blocks to arrive from Zoly (got my order in before he left for vacation).
For some reason I am not a fan of making carriages/guns - and rigging them is the absolute worst part of ship modeling
There. I said it.
And one leaf pile to rule them all...
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Is that like a Ratline Nightmare?
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Those are really scary. You wake up in a cold sweat with the blankets twisted around you in a clove hitch knot!
Hmmmmm..................Please Grant, here I thought you being better than this, hiding behind someone else's capabilities...
If I can pull of a POF, you most definitely can.
Good afternoon Paul. Wow,wow,wow.......cannon brilliance. Lovely pics. Cheers GrantOnce again, I seem to be wandering about the ship working randomly on things that need to be accomplished before the forecastle and quarter decks can be permanently installed. This week I worked on gun carriages and guns...
Carriage parts:
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For some reason I don't use a lot of jigs - but I chose to for the carriages:
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There will only be four guns on the Kingfisher, and they will sit in the waist.
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The guns themselves are secondary market CNC brass. I added an insignia and wanted to add a vent field, but I couldn't quite manage it. I my take another run at that (or maybe not):
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The finished product:
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And now sitting loose on the "deck":
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These four guns will be fully rigged so now we wait for boxwood blocks to arrive from Zoly (got my order in before he left for vacation).
For some reason I am not a fan of making carriages/guns - and rigging them is the absolute worst part of ship modeling
There. I said it.
And one leaf pile to rule them all...
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Very neat looking guns! And the scale details are stunning, as always. It is known, or it should be known by now throughout the Seven Kingdoms 
I have to start making some carriages too for my build (mainly to test things) but I doubt they will look anything close to Yours!
I have to start making some carriages too for my build (mainly to test things) but I doubt they will look anything close to Yours!
Thanks, Ian, Dan, Grant...for the nice posts and all the likes!
Wow, those cannons are terrific. Is that Damon in the leaf pile?