La Belle 1/36 - Plan by Jean Boudriot / myself

Olivers Historic Shipyard said:
Thank you all for the likes and the comments.
@Kurt Konrath
There was no space onboard for any luxury items. To use this kitchen is a punishment because you can use it only while kneeling.
But i like your BRRRRT in your Avatarpic!
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It's similar at Le Rochefort; here you also had to get on all fours to get to the stove and to the cabins if you wanted to go to bed.
 
The cleats correspond geometrically to the small cleats on the wreck. As I don't trust glued cleats, I will also secure them with a bolt.
The 3mm sheaves will be installed in the crane beams, mast cradles and the fixed snatch blocks on the railing. According to the wreck, La Belle only had wooden sheaves and axles. Before installation, the parts are cleaned again, the cleats rounded, etc.

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Olivers Historic Shipyard said:
The cleats correspond geometrically to the small cleats on the wreck. As I don't trust glued cleats, I will also secure them with a bolt.
The 3mm sheaves will be installed in the crane beams, mast cradles and the fixed snatch blocks on the railing. According to the wreck, La Belle only had wooden sheaves and axles. Before installation, the parts are cleaned again, the cleats rounded, etc.

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Oliver my dear friend :)
You manage to combine methods and tools in a way that upgrades the quality of your most beautiful products
 
Complicated to give an answer. You always have to think about what you want to do and what the machine should be able to do. We work in very small areas. The quality of the individual components determines the repeat accuracy and the result. I can't assess how well this machine can do all this. Perhaps very well in the first year, but in the third year the components are already worn out and the result deteriorates? The description on the homepage says you have to readjust a lot.
You always have to check the machine and perhaps adjust it, but it shouldn't be the standard. I therefore do not fully trust such offers.
I have opted for a high-quality product from a German company in order to be able to solve any problems better. There is a customer service department and the company is not far from me. I have already spoken to a technician on the phone, they are passionate about CNC. It was important to me to have absolutely high-quality components in order to achieve repeat accuracy with as little play as possible. Especially for the ornaments I want to mill.
And last but not least, due to its genetics, my machine can also mill 20mm aluminum if necessary.
As with 3D printing, it is important to be able to use a CAD program to create the geometry!
It is very important to have the right CAM program that creates the G-code for the milling machine from the CAD data. It must be able to process the 4th axis, this is not standard!
My personal opinion: I wouldn't spend so much money on something whose quality I can't guess. In case of problems, there is no contact person, the warranty or even spare parts could be a problem. Today the machine does what it should, but tomorrow too?

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Kompliziert eine Antort zu geben. Man muss immer überlegen was man machen will und was die Maschine können soll. Wir arbeiten in sehr kleinen Bereichen. Die Qualität der einzelnen Komponenten entscheidet über die Wiederholgenauigkeit und das Ergebnis. Ich kann nicht bewerten, we gut diese Maschine das alles umsetzten kann. Im ersten Jahr vielleicht sehr gut, aber im dritten Jahr sind die Komponenten schon verbraucht und das Ergebnis lässt nach? Man muss viel nachjustieren steht in der Beschreibung auf der Homepage.
Man muss immer die Maschine überprüfen und vielleicht justieren, aber es sollte nicht der Standard sein. Ich vertraue daher solchen Angeboten nicht ganz.
Ich habe mich für ein wertiges Produkt einer deutschen Firma entschieden um evtl. Probleme auch besser lösen zu können. Es gibt einen Kundendienst und die Firma ist auch nicht weit weg von mir. Ich habe auch schon mit einem Techniker telefoniert, die machen CNC aus Leidenschaft. Wichtig waren mit absolute hochwertig Komponenten um eine möglichst spielfreie Wiederholgenauigkeit zu bekommen. Vor allem bei den Ornamenten die ich fräsen möchte.
Und zu guterletzt kann meine Maschine aufgrund ihrer Genetik dann auch mal 20mm Aluminium fräsen wenn es sein muss.
Wichtig ist, wie auch wie beim 3D-Druck, das man ein CAD-Programm beherrscht um die Geometrie zu erzeugen!
Sehr wichtg ist auch das passende CAM-Progamm welches aus den CAD-Daten den G-Code für die Fräsmaschine erstellt. Sie muss die 4.Achse verarbeiten können, das ist kein Standard!
Meine persönliche Meinung: Ich würde nicht so viel Geld für etwas ausgeben, dessen Qualität ich nicht erahnen kann. Bei Problemen gibt es keinen Ansprechpartner, die Garantie oder auch Ersatzteile könnten ein Problem sein. Heute tut die Maschine was sie soll, aber morgen auch? Wollen wir Zeit investieren um uns evtl. herumzuärgern?
 
Olivers Historic Shipyard said:
This is my first scratch build and there is a lot of things to learn for me. First I mesured the plan a lot of hours to find any mistakes and errors. May last project i canceled because the plan was incorrect and i build the hull with a lot of errors. To avoid the same error i tried to check up the plan.
Unfortunatly the plan is full with errors and incorrect drawings. A lot of drawings shows the same detail in differnt manners. The planset has two kind of errors. Errors in the drawing and errors in the printing. After this i decide to draw my own plan. In the drawing process i find more errors. Now i know that it was the best desicion to redraw the plan. It helps also to understand the wooden part and their interfaces together. It was a good decision also for the future. I will draw for my next projects also my own plans
The draw the Hull with CATIA and the process at this point tooks 2 month. All in my freetime. Now is the point to start the building of the Hull. But i will continue to complete the ship on CAD.
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Hi Oliver.
You are absolutely right about design errors of this plan. CAD is too difficult for me so i tried to save this monograph in another way. At the moment i am even making inverted copies of frames, however center line of frames is shifted relative to center in reflection from 0.8 to 1.4 degrees, which results in differences of up to 4-5 mm on the width of upper part of frame. The connected frames are still OK, however bow and stern of plan 5 and numbering 15-16-17 - this is a tragedy... I don't know how to save myself with this, i will try to manually invert these angles after printing. A great model, however the year of the plan 1999 is doing its job, instead of building I have been sitting on the plan for several hours...
For now, a better solution would be to simply make L'Amarante because is more complicated but simpler in construction and on a fresh plan. I don't know what to do now.
Best regards.

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Olivers Historic Shipyard said:
@kuba91nt

It´s complicated and depend how far is your progress. If you are only on the paper maybe its better do look for a other project. But the after the errors in the frame you can build the project without trouble. The rest fits more or less well.

Short update: Forecastle done!

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my dear Oliver
the Forecastle of your ship looks marvelous Okay
 
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