Right! I cried tears of envy seeing the cool machinery at your disposal and the skills you have to be able to use them. Love the work even if it slides over my head.
Le Rochefort build log by OlivierF
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Work continues on mounting the floor Timbers.
Floors 1 through 15 are now complete. I’m mostly pleased with the outcome.
Floors 1 and 2 were (are) the toughest to make due to the extreme rise in the keel and the keelson.
I didn’t take a photo but 1 and 2 do sit on the keel nicely with the keelson in place.
Next I’ll complete the floors for frames 16 through 32.
Floors 1 through 15 are now complete. I’m mostly pleased with the outcome.
Floors 1 and 2 were (are) the toughest to make due to the extreme rise in the keel and the keelson.
I didn’t take a photo but 1 and 2 do sit on the keel nicely with the keelson in place.
Next I’ll complete the floors for frames 16 through 32.
Hi Oliver. I am very impressed with your work! I wish I had some of your woodworking skills. But something looks amiss...could these two be in the wrong order? Or maybe they just shifted before capturing the photo...
Thanks for your kind words Paul. The frames are in the correct order. It’s just frame 5 is tilted a little off center making it look “off”. They are just dry fitted on the keel for the photo. After I complete the aft floors I will complete each frame and fair (or is it fare?) them before permanently mounting to the keel.
The “fish” (I mean the frame floors 
) is complete!
They all line up well and the keelson sits pretty well on the frames.
I’ll do some final fiddling and adjusting once the frames are complete and mounted to the keel.
Now it’s time to start assembling the frames. One done and 31 to go…
) is complete!They all line up well and the keelson sits pretty well on the frames.
I’ll do some final fiddling and adjusting once the frames are complete and mounted to the keel.
Now it’s time to start assembling the frames. One done and 31 to go…
Will you be using Olive oil or Butter for the fish ?The “fish” (I mean the frame floors
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They all line up well and the keelson sits pretty well on the frames.
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I’ll do some final fiddling and adjusting once the frames are complete and mounted to the keel.
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Now it’s time to start assembling the frames. One done and 31 to go…
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--- work is looking awesome young man.
Olive oil with a little bit of herbs…Will you be using Olive oil or Butter for the fish ?
Great progress Oliver.
I still admire your decision to start all over again and it has paid off so far
I still admire your decision to start all over again and it has paid off so far
Thanks Tobias!
Yes agreed. It’s alot to bite off starting again. Kudos
I’ve assembled a few frames and have started sanding the tapers to fare to frames. I made a Rube-Goldberg setup to hold the frames for sanding that allows for dust collection. It works, but needs some refinement. Scratching my head on the best approach.
So far the frames are fitting as they should.
Next are the last 5 fore frames that have the most aggressive tapers. I think I’ll pause here and think about them. These frames are what I messed up the worse in my previous attempt. Slow and steady, slow and steady, slow and steady… if I keep repeating that mantra maybe I’ll listen to myself!
So far the frames are fitting as they should.
Next are the last 5 fore frames that have the most aggressive tapers. I think I’ll pause here and think about them. These frames are what I messed up the worse in my previous attempt. Slow and steady, slow and steady, slow and steady… if I keep repeating that mantra maybe I’ll listen to myself!
All the bow frames are complete and dry fitted. I did have to make frame #1 a couple of times but I think I got it right finally.
Now on the the stern frames starting with #16
Once all the frames are complete I will work on making and installing the bolts. Not sure yet if I will try to blacken them or not. We’ll see…
Hope everyone had a nice weekend!
Now on the the stern frames starting with #16
Once all the frames are complete I will work on making and installing the bolts. Not sure yet if I will try to blacken them or not. We’ll see…
Hope everyone had a nice weekend!
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Yup, Max won. Not much modeling this weekend. But your work looks really clean.
I fully agree - clean, accurate and well prepared - very good workmanship
You're moving right along !
Thanks Tony. I’m kinda stalled in the shipyard for the moment. Summer = Honey-do list… I may not see the inside of the shop until it snows!
It’s been slow going in the shipyard due to other commitments but I have managed to complete all the frames. Everything continues to line up and appear square and plumb.
With the frames complete it was time to notch them for the floor timber spacers. I cut a small piece of acrylic to the correct width and made a cut down the center. I’m lining up the “tool” on the seam between the floor frame and the first futtock and scribing a pencil line down each side.
I drew a line square on the table of the little mill and secured the frames lined up with the layout line.
I then milled a 0.5mm dato into the frames.
A few more frames to go then on to installing the nails in the frames. I do have a couple of questions about that…
1. What’s the best way to keep the nails centered on the frame. Do you measure each location on each of the frames? Do you build a template?
2. Each section is supposed to get three nails. How far apart do you keep the nails?
Thanks for following along. Fair winds and following seas my friends.
With the frames complete it was time to notch them for the floor timber spacers. I cut a small piece of acrylic to the correct width and made a cut down the center. I’m lining up the “tool” on the seam between the floor frame and the first futtock and scribing a pencil line down each side.
I drew a line square on the table of the little mill and secured the frames lined up with the layout line.
I then milled a 0.5mm dato into the frames.
A few more frames to go then on to installing the nails in the frames. I do have a couple of questions about that…
1. What’s the best way to keep the nails centered on the frame. Do you measure each location on each of the frames? Do you build a template?
2. Each section is supposed to get three nails. How far apart do you keep the nails?
Thanks for following along. Fair winds and following seas my friends.
Good morning Oliver, first of all I would like to congratulate you on the really beautiful result and can only say that it was worth starting over. Your approach to marking and milling is a very good idea. As for your question about the nail picture, here is the link to the construction of the frames in the La Palme construction report, I hope it helps a little. I should say that I always put a point 2mm from the joints and centered the rest.
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Tobias, thank you for your kind words. I looked at your La Palma method and will attempt to mimic your results. Does the steel wool help to darken the brass pins? I’ve been trying to replicate your method to blacken the nail heads with “brass black” without success. I think you use a different product but the Birchwood Casey Brass Black I use bleeds into the wood with unsatisfactory results.
I know very well, that using a mill is producing often the best possible quality and accuracy - nevertheless I have here a question
For such notches I would not use the mill (I have also a mill, so no question about the possibility).
After the correct mark with the pencil, I would make such a notch with my needlefile (good quality) due to the fact, that I think that definitely it would be much faster and in an acceptable quality - Am I too lazy? ........
Do not mistunderstand my comment - you are making here great quality and high accuracy - I am just wondering (maybe more about myself)
On every frame four notches on 30 frames - these are a lot - and I would get crazy with a mill (fixing correctly the frame in the mill takes the time)
For such notches I would not use the mill (I have also a mill, so no question about the possibility).
After the correct mark with the pencil, I would make such a notch with my needlefile (good quality) due to the fact, that I think that definitely it would be much faster and in an acceptable quality - Am I too lazy? ........
Do not mistunderstand my comment - you are making here great quality and high accuracy - I am just wondering (maybe more about myself)
On every frame four notches on 30 frames - these are a lot - and I would get crazy with a mill (fixing correctly the frame in the mill takes the time)