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USS BONHOMME RICHARD - POF - Cross Section in Pear - 1:48 - by Uwe
I will give it a try - thanks for the hint
I checked the joints of the second frame and it is better - not good, but better
on the top the second one
and a closer look
Yesterday I spent 2 hours for preparing the third frame - and I tried even more sanding away the char - the real problem here is the type of the joint with these flat scarf joints. You have to be very careful in sanding, only so much on every part, that they still fit together. A normal butt joint would be much easier to prepare.
To be honest, with 2 hours work per frame, I could also cut them scratched with my scroll saw -
Maybe the manufacturer should start to combine in their kits laser cut parts and also cnc-cut parts (for elements where laser char is a pain)
on the top the second one
and a closer look
Yesterday I spent 2 hours for preparing the third frame - and I tried even more sanding away the char - the real problem here is the type of the joint with these flat scarf joints. You have to be very careful in sanding, only so much on every part, that they still fit together. A normal butt joint would be much easier to prepare.
To be honest, with 2 hours work per frame, I could also cut them scratched with my scroll saw -
Maybe the manufacturer should start to combine in their kits laser cut parts and also cnc-cut parts (for elements where laser char is a pain)
Hello Uwe,
the ZHL model looks good.
I wish you a lot of fun and success in the construction
of the cross-section.
Karl
the ZHL model looks good.
I wish you a lot of fun and success in the construction
of the cross-section.
Karl
Very good model - so you put the level now very high for my built
We will see, how my section will look like at the end
Sure it will be better!!!Very good model - so you put the level now very high for my built
We will see, how my section will look like at the end
One advise meanwhile - try to avoid using the photoetched parts from the kit - make yours parts using wire etc
G'day koreets, that is a very nice model of the cross section you have built,
best regards John,
best regards John,
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Step by step...... the joints of the third frame are slightly better (the latest one on top) - It is acceptable for me now, so I will go forward with the same way
I want to show you also some excerpts of the plans available and will asap compare them with the Boudriot planset of the HMS Bonhomme Richard
Here the drawings of the kit
Here the drawings of the kit
For those who interested. One of the photos from Koreets (Roman) was an award: a diploma and silver medal for his section model presented in 2015 when he participated in the Russian Championship. Bravo!!
Uwe, sorry to higjack your thread.
Koreets
Excellent looking model. Can you please advise what you used for the trenails?
Thanks
John
No problem, I am happy, that there is some talks in this topic....
Because I realized the medal, I mentioned, that the necessary level for me is high now -
@Koreets ,
thanks for the tipp with the photoetched parts - I will see, what can be done
Four frames finished and dry-fitted in the jig - upside down
Frame number five was today glued and is drying - all together the section has nine double frames
Sorry, but it in moment a little bit boring....... but in some days the framing will be finished
Frame number five was today glued and is drying - all together the section has nine double frames
Sorry, but it in moment a little bit boring....... but in some days the framing will be finished
Yesterday I showed some excerpts of the kit drawings, but I forgot to show the cross section of the model - not shown is the internal construction (add-on of the kit)
And in the following the excerpts of the Bonhomme Richard drawings from the Boudriot monographie, in which I marked the part of the section with red lines
Sorry, that the photos have a different scale / size.......
And the cross-section - It is obvious, that several details were changed or adopted - f.e. the hanging knees, thickness of the inner planking.
I will see, how much I will adjust the kit in order to get closer to the planset "version"........
Many Thanks for your interest ..... to be continued ......
And in the following the excerpts of the Bonhomme Richard drawings from the Boudriot monographie, in which I marked the part of the section with red lines
Sorry, that the photos have a different scale / size.......
And the cross-section - It is obvious, that several details were changed or adopted - f.e. the hanging knees, thickness of the inner planking.
I will see, how much I will adjust the kit in order to get closer to the planset "version"........
Many Thanks for your interest ..... to be continued ......
Wait...I have noticed that one of the frames laser char wasn't cleaned. Did you change the game plan and will sand once all 9 frames assembled or?
Hi Jim,
I think, that I will sand them outside of the jig, minimum 90% of the char.
The first three I made it only on some parts, in order to check the joints...... Many thanks for your comment
Today I want to show you a small but important detail of this kit, which is the first time I saw this in section models.
If you look at the section models of other suppliers, like Victory or USS Constitution, I think the frames have over the length of the section everytime the same form.
But in reality, off course the hull form is following the lines of the ship, so every frame has a slightly different form.
Here the excerpts of the Boudriot drawings showing the lines of the Bonhomme Richard
Here you see once more, which frames and which section is part of the Section model
Unfortunately in the drawing set of the kit, there is only one cross section drawing, so we have to calculate by ourself the difference and mark it on the drawing in order to have guidance for the frame elements.
Here you can see the small difference of the width in the jig, with the frame 9 which has the smallest width
To make it more clear here the side of jig and the cross section drawing of frame 1, which is very close to the midship-section "M" (see Boudriot drawing)
and now we take a look at frame Nr 9
Here a short notice on the sketch copy
The width of the of R1 is appr. 18,6cm - R9 only 18,1 cm so 5mm less
For the frame Nr.6 with I made yesterday evening we hav appr. 18,3 cm which is marked with pencil lines -> The frame elements of frame Nr.6 have to fit this marks
you can see, that the elements are not following any more the cross section sketch
Visible also very much already at the floor timber, when you compare the form with the drawing
To be continued.......
If you look at the section models of other suppliers, like Victory or USS Constitution, I think the frames have over the length of the section everytime the same form.
But in reality, off course the hull form is following the lines of the ship, so every frame has a slightly different form.
Here the excerpts of the Boudriot drawings showing the lines of the Bonhomme Richard
Here you see once more, which frames and which section is part of the Section model
Unfortunately in the drawing set of the kit, there is only one cross section drawing, so we have to calculate by ourself the difference and mark it on the drawing in order to have guidance for the frame elements.
Here you can see the small difference of the width in the jig, with the frame 9 which has the smallest width
To make it more clear here the side of jig and the cross section drawing of frame 1, which is very close to the midship-section "M" (see Boudriot drawing)
and now we take a look at frame Nr 9
Here a short notice on the sketch copy
The width of the of R1 is appr. 18,6cm - R9 only 18,1 cm so 5mm less
For the frame Nr.6 with I made yesterday evening we hav appr. 18,3 cm which is marked with pencil lines -> The frame elements of frame Nr.6 have to fit this marks
you can see, that the elements are not following any more the cross section sketch
Visible also very much already at the floor timber, when you compare the form with the drawing
To be continued.......
Hi Uwe,
So if I understand correctly, is there a slight narrowing of the cross section towards the stern?
So if I understand correctly, is there a slight narrowing of the cross section towards the stern?