BALDER, Vlaardingen Herring Lugger from 1912, scratch build scale 1:50 Plate-On-Frame

Jimsky said:
possibly a veneer? thin enough and have many different species of wood.
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I got a lot of Black walnut venter in my stock (swamp walnut) very dark. If you need Peter? Just give a call. Maybe the right thing for a fishing boat, deck planks that got dark from al the fishing oil.
(Did the hull of the Spanish Galleon with it)
 
Peter Voogt said:
Time for the more serious work: the forecastle.
The restoration book of the Maritime Museum contains a beautiful technical drawing of the layout of the forecastle:
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(Source: Scheepvaartmuseum Restoration Book, page 90: "Crew quarters in the forecastle. Working drawing by S. de Jong.')

I have taken more than enough photos of the forecastle in the current Balder.
With a wide angle lens:
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From the corner next to the stairs, diagonally to the left towards the front.
So there are 2x6 bunks. Those of the captain and the helmsman are in the rear of the ship. They do have their own place to eat: on the left against the wall at the front with the partition in between. These 2 seats were called 'de Stee'.

Seen from 'de Stee' backwards:
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Next to the stairs is the passage to the galley. You can just see the bench that has a view to the stove and the handle of the water pump. That bench is against the wall of the drying hold on the port side.
The galley:
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Behind the stove it is the wall of the drying hold on the starboard side.

Made a mockup with a few copies of Sybe de Jong's drawing to scale and some cutting:
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Numbers placed at the 6 bunks on the port side. Bunks 5 and 6 are positioned transversely, against the wall of the drying hold.
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A is a narrow space behind B, 'de Stee'. Clothes can be hung against the wall.
C is the bench that runs along the bunks in a horseshoe shape.
The walls will support the deck beams, so that the temporary support in the middle is no longer necessary.

The planks on the outside, which are bead planks, become a challenge. Let's see if the AL's profile scrapers can make such a profile. Otherwise I have to sharpen one myself.
Another challenge: the stairs and the stove are in the middle, over the center profile. A new recess in my construction mold? The stove of the galley is located in the starboard side construction. Creative with nibbled walls.
Regards, Peter
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Looks like they even had a sauna room onboard ROTF.

Ps Peter, can you open one of the barrels for us? I am convinced you made scale size herrings to fill them.

Realy fantastic, can't wait to see it in reality.
 
Jimsky said:
possibly a veneer? thin enough and have many different species of wood.
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I have a bundle of Beech for testing as deck planks in combination with linseed oil.
And in combination with Oak, as written in the old specifications, for the frames for the hatches to the fish holds.
Regards, Peter
 
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Steef66 said:
I got a lot of Black walnut venter in my stock (swamp walnut) very dark. If you need Peter? Just give a call. Maybe the right thing for a fishing boat, deck planks that got dark from al the fishing oil.
(Did the hull of the Spanish Galleon with it)
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First the test with Beech. I will keep your offer in mind, Stephan.
Regards, Peter
 
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Maarten said:
Looks like they even had a sauna room onboard ROTF.

Ps Peter, can you open one of the barrels for us? I am convinced you made scale size herrings to fill them.

Realy fantastic, can't wait to see it in reality.
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Well, Maarten. Just today there is the auction with the first barrel with New Herring. Tomorrow is the Nieuwe Haring in the rest of the country for sale. Perhaps I will open one …….
Today it’s purely commercial and for publicity. But in the old days it was a race against fisherman from different cities who brought the first on land. There was also the consideration of whether to sail back full or be the 1st.
Regards, Peter
 
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Maarten said:
Looks like they even had a sauna room onboard ROTF.

Ps Peter, can you open one of the barrels for us? I am convinced you made scale size herrings to fill them.

Realy fantastic, can't wait to see it in reality.
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Good evening Maarten. I would put it past Peter to include the herring…..we all know his level of details;).
 
Peter Voogt said:
The barrel hold.
First the floorboards. The old specifications speak of 1 1/2" pine slats. That must have been thumbs and that is why I use inches. That would be 0.76 mm in scale.
The slats I intended for this are on average 0.85 mm. Decided to take something off anyway.

I was considering purchasing the compact Proxxon DH40 thicknesser. But if it could handle the thin slats, I asked Maarten @Maarten. He has this one in use and I thought the Byrnes too. His advice was not to purchase the Proxoon because with the thin slats there is a very good chance that the knives would snap and the slats would break.
That saves another purchase of x euros. The Byrnes with sanding rollers could handle that.
Apart from the question of whether Byrnes still delivers, given Jim's death, that would be an even bigger investment.
That's why I was creative. The Proxxon BFW-40/E is a robust machine. I put a sanding roller in it and with the cross table I can set the distance very precisely.
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With the necessary guidance, the slats will go through just fine.

Then I started painting a number of barrels that I had previously had printed with the correct shape and dimensions.
These are stretched piece by piece in the Peroxxon DB250 lathe:
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Colored by hand with a Talens Econine BrushPen. Since I used it on my BluenoseI really liked the use of Ecoline and Schmincke ink.

Then opted for black hoops:
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The ink dries lighter. That's what I had in mind because herring barrels are made of an unprocessed light wood. Certainly not oak because that would affect the taste of the herring. Often also pine wood that is burned during bending. They then discolour on the outside under the influence of the salty seawater.

The floorboards 0.76 x 3.1 mm installed:
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The old specifications: 'The floors are made of 1 1/2" pine wood with non-connecting sides.....'. Water and dirt fall through and are drained to 2 pumps, further in the hold.
As well as 3 sparring battens of 1 mm along the retaining frames so that the barrels do not bang on the iron frames.
From the side this also gives a nice line division:
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Every viewing angle provides a surprising view of the interplay of lines. But then again, there won't be anything to see anymore.

A number of barrels placed in the hold:
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It turns out that the dimensions of this hold are tailored to the floor planks and the height of the barrels.
Filled the hold a little further:
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Filling it completely is of no use, as it is no longer visible after the forecastle floor has been installed. Except the part that provides a possible view with an open hatch in the floor.

With a picture of both parts together:
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It gives you a different look on the added parts.

Now first make some construction blocks for support because the model will now gain quite a bit of weight. That will be a bit too much for the 2 pins on which the model currently stands.
Regards, Peter
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Good evening Peter. Details details and more…as you do…..wonderful. Cheers Grant
 
I wrote this in a answer to Maarten:
Peter Voogt said:
Just today there is the auction with the first barrel with New Herring.
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Traditionally, the first little barrel is auctioned for a good cause. This year it raised €81,000 for the Dutch Brain Bank.
From the web-site visbureau.nl:
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Fotobijschrift: Eerste vaatje Hollandse Nieuwe geveild voor € 81.000,- ©Goffe Struiksma
The director quoted: “This initiative will help us enormously to continue research into the changes in the brain due to brain diseases and thus give the four million Dutch people with a brain disorder or psychological complaints a normal, valuable daily life.”
Regards, Peter
 
Peter Voogt said:
I wrote this in a answer to Maarten:

Traditionally, the first little barrel is auctioned for a good cause. This year it raised €81,000 for the Dutch Brain Bank.
From the web-site visbureau.nl:
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Fotobijschrift: Eerste vaatje Hollandse Nieuwe geveild voor € 81.000,- ©Goffe Struiksma
The director quoted: “This initiative will help us enormously to continue research into the changes in the brain due to brain diseases and thus give the four million Dutch people with a brain disorder or psychological complaints a normal, valuable daily life.”
Regards, Peter
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Yes as from tomorrow Hollandse nieuwe. Yummie
 
Maarten said:
Ps Peter, can you open one of the barrels for us? I am convinced you made scale size herrings to fill them.
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Maarten said:
Yes as from tomorrow Hollandse nieuwe. Yummie
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Steef66 said:
Donderdag even langs de visboer.
For a raw fish :p with unions
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Well ....... Because of the start of the 'New Herring Season', the request of Maarten and the love for this new herring by Maarten en Stephan, I opened one of the barrels in the fore fish hold. After removing the lid and setting it aside .........
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Although this hold was only ordered for empty barrels, it did not surprise me that it was a filled with this beautiful herring with a nice percentage of fat. It tastes excellent. :)
RDN1954 said:
Don’t go there, see his ideas about adding codd to his Bluenose fish hold…
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And because Johan was challenging me …….
Regards, Peter
 
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Peter Voogt said:
Although this hold was only ordered for empty barrels, it did not surprise me that it was a filled with this beautiful herring with a nice percentage of fat. It tastes excellent. :)
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I think it was a “special delivery” barrel, either for the captain, or for one specific shipwright with crazy ideas.
 
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