BALDER, Vlaardingen Herring Lugger from 1912, scratch build scale 1:50 Plate-On-Frame

Peter Voogt said:
Mmmm ....... , Paul. I did some search on the internet. The first pip-ups appears at the 2nd WW to cheer-up the American soldiers. And the 1st of the famous Pirelli-calendars came in 1965. It would be not 'historical correct' to ad this kind of details in the forecastle. ;)
Regards, Peter
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Peter Voogt said:
Thanks for the compliments, Paul.
For you the preview of the 'PS':
.......with the piece of pipe in the water tank.......
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Not to the bottom, because then the sediment is also included.
(The cleaning will come later ....... ;) .... those macro pictures shows everything ....... :()
Regards, Peter
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Indeed, the blowups of the tiny details can be unforgiving.
Thrilling work, as always!
 
What we see in this build log is something few of us are able to duplicate and again after your last update I felt rather inadequate, when, for instance, looking at the hand pump in the focsle.
Still, while considering myself a well meaning rookie, there's a lot to take away from builds like this. There's no need to try and copy what you are doing, but... One can surely be triggered by the build process, materials and tools used, out of the box solutions for certain details and apply those in your own build. For instance, you made a remark on the skin covering of my Spin, I intended to use modeling sail cloth, why I didn't consider using tissue paper. Lo and behold, tissue it became, with great effect.
My point being, learning from others, performing beyond our own skillset, will improve our own skills as modeler.
 
RDN1954 said:
What we see in this build log is something few of us are able to duplicate and again after your last update I felt rather inadequate, when, for instance, looking at the hand pump in the focsle.
Still, while considering myself a well meaning rookie, there's a lot to take away from builds like this. There's no need to try and copy what you are doing, but... One can surely be triggered by the build process, materials and tools used, out of the box solutions for certain details and apply those in your own build. For instance, you made a remark on the skin covering of my Spin, I intended to use modeling sail cloth, why I didn't consider using tissue paper. Lo and behold, tissue it became, with great effect.
My point being, learning from others, performing beyond our own skillset, will improve our own skills as modeler.
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You hit the nail on the head, Johan. It’s the building proces and showing the choices of materials and tools. For me it’s also reading other build-logs and put the ideas in your mind.
A example: when in the old documents was written that they used the ‘kraaldelen’ in the forecastle, I saw the grove on one side. Then the use of a scraper popped up like Dean @Dean62 used on het Norske Løve. And other users.
It’s the knowledge building up for years and apply it when it suits you. And sometimes a other builder will remind you.
Ps: For the pump I forgot to take pictures of the intermediate steps. It’s made of different Evergreen rods, some paper and brass for the handle.
Regards, Peter
 
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I had to think a little longer before making and installing the stairs.
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On the left a photo from the restoration book of the Scheepvaartmuseum. On the right I took it myself in the Balder. It is a robust staircase that crew members can safely use with their clogs.
To the right of the stairs is the narrow passage to the galley. Behind the stairs is a piece of partition wall.
At the bottom right of the photo is an insert of the top stair tread. This is located on the same level of the deck. It also protrudes slightly in front of both stair stringers and the outer corners are bevelled.

First measured the angle of the stairs.
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At the background a stringer in the model. Measured from the waterline it's 10 degrees.

Made a 2x10 degree mold and stuck it to the cross table with double-sided tape:
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Glued both stair stringers also on the tape. The recesses for the 7 treads were then milled horizontally.
The treads will then also be horizontal to the waterline relative to the ship. So not in the corner of the keel or floor of the forecastle. Why? Have you ever walked on a staircase where the treads are tilted? That throws you off balance.

7 treads of 11 mm cut with the Ultimation:
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Bottom left: gluing the treads using the small square with a 0.6 mm spacer behind the tread. So that the treads protrude slightly at the front. With the slanted corners.

Given a color so that it looks like a hardwood staircase:
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In the middle photo the piece of floor, back wall and skirting board that will slide over the current floor.
Partly applied in the right photo. A piece of thin foil under the floor slides between the floor and the beams to give the bonding some strength.

The test fit:
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Left photo:
Arrows A: the piece of floor must slide over the floor profiles in the starboard half. Just like the piece of floor in front of the stove.
Arrow B: The wall must slide behind the profile of the deck beam.
Right photo: The two parts against each other.
In the starboard part you can see some uprights. I also removed the interrupted parts of the deck center beam in that part. As I wrote about the design of the port side, I didn't like it.

Glued in the piece of wall/floor and placed the stairs:
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With a photo from the front to check alignment:
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Unfortunately, I can't get a nice photo from the inside with the iPhone, so I have a comparison photo like the double photo at the beginning of the post.

The two parts combined:
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Both floors slide neatly over the beams of the starboard part.
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I don't know yet what I will do with the uprights in the starboard part. Maybe I'll leave them white to indicate that parts are not part of the gray construction.
So far, so good.
Regards, Peter
 
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Peter Voogt said:
Thanks, Stephan.
Ps: there are some differences between a stair and a ladder: a stair has treads (treden) and a ladder has rungs (sporten).;)
It’s all in the details!
Regards, Peter
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Ladder comes from the old English hlæder and means "ladders, steps" - a set of steps. From the Proto-Germanic halide (also originated from the ancient Frisian hledere, from the Middle Dutch ledere, Old archaic German leitara, In archaic English the steps were called læddrestæfæ and the sides were ladder steles.

The fact that distinguishes "stairs" from "ladder" is beyond the distinct uses, stairs serve to communicate one floor with another and are fixed structures, ladder is mobile, and serves to climb anywhere, in some cases the verb ladder is used in the sense of fight fires.

But the difference I find most peculiar is related to something that seems superstitious but isn't:
Passing under a ladder is unlucky!

Because the ladder has empty spaces between steps, which also distinguishes it from stairs (usually), any tool or other materials from someone working on a ladder can fall and cause damage to anyone under it. So the above statement has a scientific basis solid enough not to be attributed to superstition, perhaps changing the word unlucky for "can be dangerous"

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dockattner said:
Still looks like a ladder to me ROTF.
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You can call it whatever you want, Paul. But when you come again to the Netherlands you have to watch what you say when you are traveling on our waterways.
We call a bit representative vessel a schip/ship here, with a schipper/skipper as kaptein/captain. Never call that a boot/boat in the Netherlands, because then the kaptein/captain would be a boter/boater. Because ‘boter’ is butter.
We have roeiboten/rowing boats and motorboten/motor boats, but their captains can't even make a dent in a pack of butter.;)
It’s all in the names!
Regards, Peter
 
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Peter Voogt said:
You can call it whatever you want, Paul. But when you come again to the Netherlands you have to watch what you say when you are traveling on our waterways.
We call a bit representative vessel a schip/ship here, with a schipper/skipper as kaptein/captain. Never call that a boot/boat in the Netherlands, because then the kaptein/captain would be a boter/boater. Because ‘boter’ is butter.
We have roeiboten/rowing boats and motorboten/motor boats, but their captains can't even make a dent in a pack of butter.
It’s all in the names!
Regards, Peter
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It was very dangerous for me to be in Amsterdam. I look Dutch (tall, thin, blonde) so people would come up to me frequently and say something in the local dialect. If they looked harmless, I would try to reply in German since there are enough similarities that I could at least convey that I was not Dutch. If they looked scary, I just smiled apologetically. I was very careful to never called anyone a butter ROTF. Though I did once enter a coffee shop thinking I could buy a coffee ROTF.
 
Peter Voogt said:
You can call it whatever you want, Paul. But when you come again to the Netherlands you have to watch what you say when you are traveling on our waterways.
We call a bit representative vessel a schip/ship here, with a schipper/skipper as kaptein/captain. Never call that a boot/boat in the Netherlands, because then the kaptein/captain would be a boter/boater. Because ‘boter’ is butter.
We have roeiboten/rowing boats and motorboten/motor boats, but their captains can't even make a dent in a pack of butter.;)
It’s all in the names!
Regards, Peter
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That's because you live in the north of Holland, I live in the south and there are much things we call ladder, we have here ladder zat and a ladder in the kous and we call everything on the water boat (beutje) if it is big or small, and also we drink a lot. That solves all the problems of language here.

And Paul, in the south we speak often German, no problem. But don't do that in the north. No go zone.
 
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