HMS Alert [1777] 1:48 POF by serikoff. (Two hulls: skeleton and fully rigged)

But they look so good, you should be happy. :) I would bet seeing this great array of photos and how well these frames are "shaping up" is giving a lot of members a goal to shoot for.
Allan
Absolutely! This process makes frame construction almost flawless. Note, I said almost. ROTF You're doing a fantastic job Serikoff!
 
Very nice work and a very clever kit design.

The original plan was to build this kit twice. I assume you are only working on one set of frames at a time?
Yes, the kit is really very good. You can achieve good results. Yes, I want to build two hulls, but not identical ones. I want to build one as a skeleton (from the kit), and then scan it and carve it from one piece of wood, so that later I can sheathe it with slats and make the deck stuffing and install the mast and sails. So in fact, I kind of make two hulls, but in turn, continuing to build the second one after the first from the same place. I hope I explained it clearly, otherwise I hope the translator will translate everything correctly))


Absolutely! This process makes frame construction almost flawless. Note, I said almost. ROTF You're doing a fantastic job Serikoff!
Thank you for your words)) There is always something to strive for and always room to grow)))
 
Moving on at a fairly good pace. I didn't count, but I definitely made more than half of the solid frames. When I finish, I will show you how to grind such horseshoe-shaped frames so as not to damage them. In the meantime, a couple of life hacks when working with templates.

The most obvious, but not always everyone does this (which leads to deformation when glued or glued to the steps in the glue seam). This is a fixation of glued fragments. The simplest method is to put the template on a perfectly flat surface, and put the load on the frames. In my case, these are dumbbell pancakes.

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The second point is the clamps to maintain the correct (original) pattern geometry. So, there are only 9 of these latches. And if you glue the second parts of the frames, then only a maximum of 2 frames can be glued at a time. And in order not to wait until the glue dries and assemble on several templates at once (I do on 3-4 at once), these latches are not enough. Therefore, it is possible to glue ready-made fragments as they are manufactured and no longer use latches in this zone, but use them on new templates.

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As shown in the photo below: in the green oval there are already permanently glued fragments, and then in this area no latches are needed (shown by the red oval), and the latches can be used further (shown by the arrows). And those latches that are free - use on a new template.

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At this pace, I will soon finish gluing all the frames and you can start contouring them after grinding...

Ship-1
 
A little update and a couple of thoughts...

To date, it remains to glue another 8 halves of frames, i.e. in fact 10% of all 41 solid frames. Then grinding everyone and you can start contouring those that are needed, there are about half of all 77 of them. But it still feels that I am already at the finish of the first chapter...

And another small life hack... so that very small edges of the workpiece do not break off (especially if it is on wood fiber), you can glue with cyanocrine that cist that can be chipped during processing.

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Below in the photo is a part before processing glued CA and the same after processing.

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Today I also decided about wood for the keel frame for the second building, and for replacement in this one. After 1.5 months, I hope the blanks will be sawn into dies and 9 parts of the keel frame will already be cut out on them (the only thing is that I connect the bottom 3 parts and make the joint an imitation, so in fact 7 parts). And that most likely I will have already completed all the frames by this time and will collect the slipway and may even begin to collect the keel. You also need to think over the stand mount... in a word, work is in full swing...

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The parts that are highlighted in rainbow colors are the ones that I will redo for the set and the same second set will be for the second case. By the way, I will try to have the Latin numbers on the keel - this time. And the second is the thickening of the keel in its front upper part from 5 mm to 6-6.5 mm, as indicated in the anatomy and which is not in the kit.

Ship-1
 
1.6. Grinding

Hooray!... I finished gluing the one-piece frames together. There are 41 of them and a total of 65 frames that had to be glued together. And this stage is over. I finished it 2 days earlier than expected. Now it remains to grind them.

Frames that were halves I already showed how I polished out. Everything is simple there. In a stacked template, everything is first ground on one side. Turn, push and grind on the other side.

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It is impossible to do this with solid frames, since they can only be side by side with halves at the same time. Therefore, the grinding method is as follows: on a sheet of sandpaper 240, we grind along the fibers, as indicated in the photo. Yes, this is long (although not very), it is not very convenient (but this is very)), but all surfaces are flat and there is no risk of damaging the frame.

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And this is the result...

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Left - before and right - after grinding. I think I will cope with 35 remaining ones in a day and then a more interesting procedure - contouring...

Ship-1
 
Really nice prgress. I will use the same technic for my Fly, but it takes a lot of time to prepare all the drawings and CNC files for milling.
Yes, I can imagine. But still, it takes much longer to do everything manually, without a set or without CNC cutting. When you cut out each part on a saw, process it, grind it... I take my hat off to those who do everything manually, but for me it takes too long. CNC is simply the only way out. And the better and more accurately the cutting is done, the easier and faster the process goes, but I really like it))
 
Good morning Sergey,
very neat work and a great description of your approach.

I'm also toying with the idea of getting a CNC milling machine to make certain tasks easier, but I think I'll continue to build my frames the traditional way in the future. I don't think building the frames by hand takes any longer. I need about 45 minutes per double frame. The hull construction of Le Rochefort took about two months.
 
1.6. Grinding

Hooray!... I finished gluing the one-piece frames together. There are 41 of them and a total of 65 frames that had to be glued together. And this stage is over. I finished it 2 days earlier than expected. Now it remains to grind them.

Frames that were halves I already showed how I polished out. Everything is simple there. In a stacked template, everything is first ground on one side. Turn, push and grind on the other side.

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It is impossible to do this with solid frames, since they can only be side by side with halves at the same time. Therefore, the grinding method is as follows: on a sheet of sandpaper 240, we grind along the fibers, as indicated in the photo. Yes, this is long (although not very), it is not very convenient (but this is very)), but all surfaces are flat and there is no risk of damaging the frame.

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And this is the result...

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Left - before and right - after grinding. I think I will cope with 35 remaining ones in a day and then a more interesting procedure - contouring...

Ship-1
Good morning Sergey. Spot on :D And a cool process. Thanks for sharing this. Cheers Grant
 
Good morning Sergey,
very neat work and a great description of your approach.

I'm also toying with the idea of getting a CNC milling machine to make certain tasks easier, but I think I'll continue to build my frames the traditional way in the future. I don't think building the frames by hand takes any longer. I need about 45 minutes per double frame. The hull construction of Le Rochefort took about two months.
Wow, you have a fast pace. Yes, you are right, there is a charm in doing everything yourself or at least with CNC. But unfortunately I have neither the time nor the place to do it. I jokingly call my hobby "shipyard on a small knee" )))) because most of it happens)))

Good morning Sergey. Spot on :D And a cool process. Thanks for sharing this. Cheers Grant
Thank you for appreciating and for your comment. Glad to hear that I am doing something useful)))
 
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