Looks beautiful Marc. Bravo.
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Way to go Marc. Are you going to include the netting? If so good luck and may much patience be bestowed upon thee..Before attaching the schrouds I thought it would be a good idea to install the Hammock Cranes first (for accessibility reasons)...No schrouds in the way...
And luckily (just in time) I noticed that the Cranes are not symmetrical...a part protrudes from the railing...
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. Cheers GrantLooking good Marc!
Is there a reason you left off the wooldings on the mizzen mast? Rope wooldings were introduced on the mizzen mast about 1773 and there were generally two less wooldings on the mizzen mast than on the foremast so would be appropriate for Diana 1794.
Allan
Is there a reason you left off the wooldings on the mizzen mast? Rope wooldings were introduced on the mizzen mast about 1773 and there were generally two less wooldings on the mizzen mast than on the foremast so would be appropriate for Diana 1794.
Allan
Dear Allan,
After your many good advices I had no choice....
After a week of intensive searching I found a second-hand copy...in perfect condition!
After your many good advices I had no choice....
After a week of intensive searching I found a second-hand copy...in perfect condition!
Yes Allan, will add them..planned to do it when installing the shroud-gratings...
Hello Grant,Way to go Marc. Are you going to include the netting? If so good luck and may much patience be bestowed upon thee..
As for the net, I am still in doubt about putting them amidships. I added the nets to the Constitution and I was not satisfied. I could not tighten the nets (nets were in an elastic plastic) and at the slightest touch there was an unevenness that I could not correct. I will still search for the net, i.e. see if I can find a decent net on the internet.
Marc
Installed the Tackle pendants and started with the Shrouds....
Hey Allan,
Question regarding the Mizzen mast.
In James Lees reference book page 3 clearly mentioned that Rope Wooldings were introduced on the mizzen in about 1733.
But, Won't these ropes be an obstacle to hoisting the Mizzen Staysail?
After all, the mizzen sail is equipped with rings that slide over the mast...
I can't find a clear answer to this anywhere. And before I apply the rope wooldings I want to get certainty.
Can you help me with this?
Marc
Question regarding the Mizzen mast.
In James Lees reference book page 3 clearly mentioned that Rope Wooldings were introduced on the mizzen in about 1733.
But, Won't these ropes be an obstacle to hoisting the Mizzen Staysail?
After all, the mizzen sail is equipped with rings that slide over the mast...
I can't find a clear answer to this anywhere. And before I apply the rope wooldings I want to get certainty.
Can you help me with this?
Marc
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After seeing your comment I did some research on this and cannot find anything based on contemporary sources for British ships in the age of sail that state that the lanyards on deadeyes (and/or hearts) must always be tarred. Looking at contemporary models at Preble Hall, some of the lanyards are tarred and some are not tarred. Two that are not tarred can be seen in the photos below. This has been a subject of debate at times and I would love to find a source based on contemporary sources that states that the lanyards were tarred or not, or if it was one of those things that the boatswain decided so there was no established rule. Modern reproductions might not always serve as accurate examples.
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I have this information, sorry it is only in Italian language , translated from French.Frank
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What's the point of tarring the shrouds but not tarring the lanyards?
After rigging the ship and completing the final tightening of the standing rigging, he resined profusely. This is described in all books on maritime practice in all countries, at all times. England or the boatswain have nothing to do with it.
Shrouds with deadeyes and lanyards are found in many maritime museums. We have one too, where the remains of the protective coating are perfectly preserved.
Leaving the lanyards unprotected will ruin the entire ship. This is stupid.
After rigging the ship and completing the final tightening of the standing rigging, he resined profusely. This is described in all books on maritime practice in all countries, at all times. England or the boatswain have nothing to do with it.
Shrouds with deadeyes and lanyards are found in many maritime museums. We have one too, where the remains of the protective coating are perfectly preserved.
Leaving the lanyards unprotected will ruin the entire ship. This is stupid.
Museum models often show the rigging without protective covering. This is understandable, because the ropes became resinous after the final tension. There are many more examples with tarred rigging. It also happens that models are poorly restored or have modern rigging.
Many people remember the white ropes at Victory.
On the Victory ship, when she went to sea, the standing rigging was completely tarred. After previous repairs, they did not tighten the standing rigging on the ship so as not to break the dilapidated wood.
Since the rigging was covered with a protective layer only after tension, the ropes were left white on purpose. Today, proper restoration is being done, and the ropes are black again.
Many people remember the white ropes at Victory.
On the Victory ship, when she went to sea, the standing rigging was completely tarred. After previous repairs, they did not tighten the standing rigging on the ship so as not to break the dilapidated wood.
Since the rigging was covered with a protective layer only after tension, the ropes were left white on purpose. Today, proper restoration is being done, and the ropes are black again.
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Many thanks Iutar
This is an interesting, and something of a hot button, topic and fun to read various opinions and comments from you and others.
Can you please give a name of one or two of these books that might be in English, French, or Italian? I am not doubting what you found but I truly would love to do more reading of contemporary based information on this practice. The more I read the more I am convinced the lanyards would be dark, but not necessarily from being tarred. The following was posted six or seven years ago elsewhere as part of a long discussion on this very topic. This excerpt was written by author Ed Tosti based on his own extensive research and makes some interesting points.
Allan
1. Why install a large number of contraptions like deadeye/lanyards if they would rarely if ever be used? Why not just seize shrouds/backstays to chains after initial tightening?
2. If these were needed to re-tension or re-rig backstays or even shrouds, why would one clog up this friction-prone device with tar?
3. If greasing rigging with galley slush or other lubricant was common at the time, why would this not be used on deadeye lanyards, at least when needed?
4. What does all this mean to the color of model lanyards?
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with the utmost respect for YOUR opinion but, what I have as documents is pure reality, strange case that out of 580 texts I have there is no mention of tarring of “runners”.Frank
I followed with the biggest interest this discussion.
However the kit only mentions natural hemp thread, and no black colored thread was included for the gratings.
The instruction book clearly states that they have done extensive research and they recommend following their instructions closely?
Now I have so much respect for you that I dare not join in the debate.
What should I use now? Black or the Hemp?
Something similar I have come across with the Woolding of the Mizzen mast. No scale model of the period when the Diana was built has Woulding/Mizzen mast. Here I decided not to apply one.
