HMS GRANADO - full hull - POF kit by CAF in 1:48 - by Uwe

Hello Uwe,
as I am on vacation today, I have time to view some logs. Your Granado is exceptional. I love the treenails using the draw plate. Your workmanship and craftsmanship have always been admired.
 
Uwe,

Just catching up - as always your work's superlative quality is awe inspiring. I won't ever reach your skill level. - the delight is in just enjoying looking
through your log. And I always learn something new; such as the toothpick treenail method (also just saw that in Donnie's current log as well)

Cheers,
 
Many Thanks to @Mirek , @shota70 , @xander898 , @Maarten , @Dean62 , @Kurt Konrath , @Ptèr , @Donnie and @oldflyer
for the comments and all the likes received - a real motivation

The next working step was the preparation for the main quarterdeck bulkhead which is shown in Goodwins book in two different variants

Variant 1)
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Variant 2)
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More or less all models, f.e. the Jotika Granado, and also the Lightley model in the NMM is showing the Variant 1

Jotika / Caldercraft

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Lightley

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The kit contents the "paintings", so in principle this version could be done relatively easily

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I did not decide yet, which version I will build - I am open for suggestions and opinions

But first of all the elements of the structure

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The laser cut curved pillars are based in notches and the deck beam is laying on these pillars

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preparation of the curved door

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at the end the door will be higher than the deck, here the so called "deep waterway" board has to be installed

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after removal of the char

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But before I can fix these elements, I have to finish the inner planking of the after cabin

Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued .....
 
Super progress and very cleanly prepared. It's hard for me to give you any advice about the two variants because I find both very appealing. Variant 1 is very decorative, variant 2 plain and simple but with charm. Since you said yes, variant 1 is the variant that is often shown (I would do it as a little rebel), then number 2. ;)
 
Uwek said:
Many Thanks to @Mirek , @shota70 , @xander898 , @Maarten , @Dean62 , @Kurt Konrath , @Ptèr , @Donnie and @oldflyer
for the comments and all the likes received - a real motivation

The next working step was the preparation for the main quarterdeck bulkhead which is shown in Goodwins book in two different variants

Variant 1)
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Variant 2)
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More or less all models, f.e. the Jotika Granado, and also the Lightley model in the NMM is showing the Variant 1

Jotika / Caldercraft

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Lightley

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The kit contents the "paintings", so in principle this version could be done relatively easily

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I did not decide yet, which version I will build - I am open for suggestions and opinions

But first of all the elements of the structure

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The laser cut curved pillars are based in notches and the deck beam is laying on these pillars

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preparation of the curved door

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at the end the door will be higher than the deck, here the so called "deep waterway" board has to be installed

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after removal of the char

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But before I can fix these elements, I have to finish the inner planking of the after cabin

Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued .....
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Definately variant 1. The more bling the better the thing. :)
 
Uwek said:
Many Thanks to @Mirek , @shota70 , @xander898 , @Maarten , @Dean62 , @Kurt Konrath , @Ptèr , @Donnie and @oldflyer
for the comments and all the likes received - a real motivation

The next working step was the preparation for the main quarterdeck bulkhead which is shown in Goodwins book in two different variants

Variant 1)
View attachment 359175 View attachment 359178

Variant 2)
View attachment 359176 View attachment 359177

More or less all models, f.e. the Jotika Granado, and also the Lightley model in the NMM is showing the Variant 1

Jotika / Caldercraft

View attachment 359181 View attachment 359182

Lightley

View attachment 359184 View attachment 359185

The kit contents the "paintings", so in principle this version could be done relatively easily

View attachment 359183

I did not decide yet, which version I will build - I am open for suggestions and opinions

But first of all the elements of the structure

View attachment 359195

The laser cut curved pillars are based in notches and the deck beam is laying on these pillars

View attachment 359196

preparation of the curved door

View attachment 359189

at the end the door will be higher than the deck, here the so called "deep waterway" board has to be installed

View attachment 359190

View attachment 359191

after removal of the char

View attachment 359193

View attachment 359192

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But before I can fix these elements, I have to finish the inner planking of the after cabin

Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued .....
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Good afternoon Uwek. I prefer the decorative no 1 option. Wonderful progress as always. Cheers Grant
 
And now the minority report...

IMHO the decorative version 1 seems a bit exuberant for this vessel??? But version 2 is understated in light of all the other detailing. How about including the panels depicted in version 1 but hold off on adding the fancy bits until later when you have a fuller sense of the overall look?

Of course, you're the captain so I'm confident you'll make the right choice for YOU!
 
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Dear Uwek
I prefer the decorative no 1 option. Wonderful progress as usual Okay :)
 
Many Many thanks to all (@Steef66 , @Tobias , @Maarten , @Jimsky , @Bryian , @GrantTyler , @dockattner , @shota70 , @Don Case , @Dean62 and @Peter Voogt ) your suggestions and opinions - all your comments are helping me to find at the end the final touch.

In moment I think it will be really somehow a mixture of the two variants

Thinking more in detail about the variant 1 - there is another smaller technical woodworking problem which has to be solved and which is not shown in the Goodwin drawings

for reminding these are the Goodwin drawings - a cross section is done only for the Variant 2

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The cros section of Variant 1 would look somehow like this - red are the horizontal planks, and green would be deleted

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I can not imagine, that they would have these curved pillars on both sides of the wall - but maybe, inside at the captains room there are also on both sides ths pillars ......

This is a typical problem of such stripped POF models - with POB you close and finalize only the outside - here the view is possible on both sides, so somehow it should be also from the carpenter knowledge more or less correct

Good, that I have still some time to think about
 
Uwek said:
Many Many thanks to all (@Steef66 , @Tobias , @Maarten , @Jimsky , @Bryian , @GrantTyler , @dockattner , @shota70 , @Don Case , @Dean62 and @Peter Voogt ) your suggestions and opinions - all your comments are helping me to find at the end the final touch.

In moment I think it will be really somehow a mixture of the two variants

Thinking more in detail about the variant 1 - there is another smaller technical woodworking problem which has to be solved and which is not shown in the Goodwin drawings

for reminding these are the Goodwin drawings - a cross section is done only for the Variant 2

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The cros section of Variant 1 would look somehow like this - red are the horizontal planks, and green would be deleted

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I can not imagine, that they would have these curved pillars on both sides of the wall - but maybe, inside at the captains room there are also on both sides ths pillars ......

This is a typical problem of such stripped POF models - with POB you close and finalize only the outside - here the view is possible on both sides, so somehow it should be also from the carpenter knowledge more or less correct

Good, that I have still some time to think about
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It seems variant 1 has the support beams exposed, and variant 2 the beams are cover with planks. You could however still put the art on variant 2, because either way it is on a curved surface. :)
So now its a matter of if you want the beams exposed, and if you want the art work on it. So there are actually 4 ways you could build it, with either variant 1 or 2 and with or without the art.
 
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Many thanks for the reply @Dean62
I will ply a little bit with the solutions or variants, especially the waterway of the quarter deck bulkhead as to be solved correctly.
but definitely I will use horizontal separate boards and not one plane painted sheet for the bulkhead. The Granado was a working ship, so the structure and the construction should be visible..... I will keep you all informed.

As described the next necessary step is the inner planking

The inner planking of the quarter deck after cabin - here I made no treenailing, but imitated the nails only with a small dott with a scriber (similar to the deck planking in this area - also the two gunports are cut out - some final sanding will be still necessary

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starting with the inner planking on tha main deck - here also the gunports and the sweeü ports are roughly cut out

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Before I fix the boards I prepared also the treenailing in the already known method with adjusted toothpicks

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This is (in my opinion) also the best time to prepare already the scuppers - made out of square brass tubes with 2mm

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The (still) unplanked side - in the moment the brass tubes are much longer and removable

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Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued
 
also the outer planking has do be done in parallel
I made not so many photos - it is in priciple the repeating of the normal planking job

I started upwards from the wales

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The result after a first sanding and first treatment with CLOU

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the wales will get the copper bolts - all other planks the typical tooth-pick treenailing

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some more sanding will be necessary - also more accurate sanding of the gunports and the sweep-ports

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Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued
 
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