HMS GRANADO - full hull - POF kit by CAF in 1:48 - by Uwe
Ummm...does the toothpick works the best?
"Bad english" is not important - I am pretty sure, that I also write sometimes (or often) in a bad dinglish D(eutch)inglish.
Important is that the picks or pics or Zahnstocher are acceptable in the overall appearance
At the end it is a trial and error from this kit to the next ....
as mentioned yesterday - some sanding is still necessary, but as an example I show here the Zahnstocher (german term for toothpick) - method on an internal 2,0mm plank
before bended with an iron, drilled with 0,5mm drill and the prepared toothpicks
cut with a side cutter
surface sanded
closeup view of the sanded surface
the board was treated with CLOU - only at this stage you can see that the treenails are darkened
This is more or less the final result which I would like to have on all planks - I have still some more to make .....
Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued ....
Hallo Uwe, your progress is fantastic, your execution just brilliant, a pleasure to follow the whole building.
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not at all! I like it!
Planking and treenailing ...... good, that in moment I am only planking one side and only the wales and the planks upwards
The other half (under the wales) can wait
after cutting the fore gunport (for a chaser gun) I was able to mark the location for the treenails correctly (I tried)
The wales (all together three rows) and also the first thicker plank (#5) above the wales are "fixed" with copper bolts
on top of single frames I used only one nail per connection, double and tripple frames are getting two treenails or copper bolts
prepared holes with 0,5mm
the look after the first sanding activities
on the right side a fast check of the appearance after treatment with CLOU - the holes for the scuppers have to be still adjusted
Maybe you recognized that in the drawing no fore gunport is shown, but in my model you can see it - it is no error here or there
-> I will try to discuss and explain this tomorrow
Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued
The other half (under the wales) can wait
after cutting the fore gunport (for a chaser gun) I was able to mark the location for the treenails correctly (I tried)
The wales (all together three rows) and also the first thicker plank (#5) above the wales are "fixed" with copper bolts
on top of single frames I used only one nail per connection, double and tripple frames are getting two treenails or copper bolts
prepared holes with 0,5mm
the look after the first sanding activities
on the right side a fast check of the appearance after treatment with CLOU - the holes for the scuppers have to be still adjusted
Maybe you recognized that in the drawing no fore gunport is shown, but in my model you can see it - it is no error here or there
-> I will try to discuss and explain this tomorrow
Many Thanks for your interest .... to be continued
Looks very, very good.
Uwe.
Looking superb......such great work - maybe one day I'll reach your level of skills or not hahaha
Looking superb......such great work - maybe one day I'll reach your level of skills or not hahaha
Many Thanks for the replies @pianoforte and @oldflyer and also for the likes received
Maybe not interesting for some of you, but for everybody building the Granado model (scratch, Jotika, CAF etc.) or another bomb vessel of a similar type, the following could be of some interest
The foremost gunport, chase port - installation YES or NO ?!?!
Looking at contemporary drawings of the bomb vessel class we can find drawings with such port
and also without
The Granado drawing is showing one
www.rmg.co.uk
When we stay with the NMM we know also the Leightly model
which has not such a port
When we take a closer look to the information given in Goodwins Anatomy book
There is such a chase gun port shown, but Goodwin added in the description of this gunport every time "if fitted"
BTW: this would be the gunport lid or better port cover - which is different to the normal lid at the cabin
the normal gunport lids, better "port covers"
Also the CAF-kit is leaving it open - the framing is prepared for such a cover
When we take a closer look at the history of the HMS Granado (taken from Threedecks)
we can see that she carried 1742 - 10 * 4-pounder guns
and changed the armament in 1756 to 8 * 4-pounder
when we take a closer look to her service history is getting clear
in 1742 the Granado was fitted and commissioned as a normal sloop with 10 guns - she served as a sloop until 1756
During this time the chase gunport was armed or possibly armed
in 1756 she was refitted and converted into a bomb vessel with tow mortars and only 8 guns
four years later1760 she was once more refitted as a sloop
and already one year later in 1761 once more refitted as a bomb vessel
Due to this changes, I am pretty sure, that these chase gunports were installed form the beginning, and left, but not used during her carreer as a bomb vessel. They could be also helpful during handling the anchors etc.
My Conclusion:
Based on these information, I decided for myself, that my Granado will get such ports
( one more nice detail which is interesting to see looking at the bow )
Many Thanks to everybody reading until the end ...... and many thanks for your interest in my build and my thoughts
And I promise, that my next post will show some sawdust and no theory
Maybe not interesting for some of you, but for everybody building the Granado model (scratch, Jotika, CAF etc.) or another bomb vessel of a similar type, the following could be of some interest
The foremost gunport, chase port - installation YES or NO ?!?!
Looking at contemporary drawings of the bomb vessel class we can find drawings with such port
and also without
The Granado drawing is showing one
'Granado' (1742) bomb vessel | Royal Museums Greenwich
When we stay with the NMM we know also the Leightly model
which has not such a port
When we take a closer look to the information given in Goodwins Anatomy book
There is such a chase gun port shown, but Goodwin added in the description of this gunport every time "if fitted"
BTW: this would be the gunport lid or better port cover - which is different to the normal lid at the cabin
the normal gunport lids, better "port covers"
Also the CAF-kit is leaving it open - the framing is prepared for such a cover
When we take a closer look at the history of the HMS Granado (taken from Threedecks)
we can see that she carried 1742 - 10 * 4-pounder guns
and changed the armament in 1756 to 8 * 4-pounder
when we take a closer look to her service history is getting clear
in 1742 the Granado was fitted and commissioned as a normal sloop with 10 guns - she served as a sloop until 1756
During this time the chase gunport was armed or possibly armed
in 1756 she was refitted and converted into a bomb vessel with tow mortars and only 8 guns
four years later1760 she was once more refitted as a sloop
and already one year later in 1761 once more refitted as a bomb vessel
Due to this changes, I am pretty sure, that these chase gunports were installed form the beginning, and left, but not used during her carreer as a bomb vessel. They could be also helpful during handling the anchors etc.
My Conclusion:
Based on these information, I decided for myself, that my Granado will get such ports
( one more nice detail which is interesting to see looking at the bow )
Many Thanks to everybody reading until the end ...... and many thanks for your interest in my build and my thoughts
And I promise, that my next post will show some sawdust and no theory
Hallo Uwe, super research, I would decide the same way. Amazing how the ships were rebuilt so often back then.
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Nice research and a good decision. These ports are also used to make it easier to lift the anchor. In the book of Marquard of the Vasa you see a drawing how the sailors hang out of that port to tie the ropes to the anchor to lift it further up.
Nice personal touch with historical base, Uwe.
Regard, Peter
Regard, Peter
Before I am able to close the deck of the after cabin I had to install some eyebolts and rings - blackened with "Ballistol"
Although the HMS Granado was not armed with enough guns, I am pretty sure, that in case of necessity there were some eyebolts prepared for the guntackles
If not they are some nice details as eyecatcher on the model ......
view through a gunport
and also the hatch-covers received the ringbolts
also the planking of the upper part is coming to an end ...... to be continued (hopefully tomorrow)
Many Thanks for your interest
Although the HMS Granado was not armed with enough guns, I am pretty sure, that in case of necessity there were some eyebolts prepared for the guntackles
If not they are some nice details as eyecatcher on the model ......
view through a gunport
and also the hatch-covers received the ringbolts
also the planking of the upper part is coming to an end ...... to be continued (hopefully tomorrow)
Many Thanks for your interest
Uwe,
as always so perfect....
BTW - how did you make those perfect square bits? did you just square off nail heads - I may have missed your technique.
I will need this when I work on the upcoming Viking ship - will leave many inside deck panels open, so will need to simulate those as well.
Your work is so encouraging
as always so perfect....
BTW - how did you make those perfect square bits? did you just square off nail heads - I may have missed your technique.
I will need this when I work on the upcoming Viking ship - will leave many inside deck panels open, so will need to simulate those as well.
Your work is so encouraging
May I ask what is CLOU ? it is apparently some type of finish or oil ?
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wonderful work my friendBefore I am able to close the deck of the after cabin I had to install some eyebolts and rings - blackened with "Ballistol"
Although the HMS Granado was not armed with enough guns, I am pretty sure, that in case of necessity there were some eyebolts prepared for the guntackles
If not they are some nice details as eyecatcher on the model ......
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view through a gunport
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and also the hatch-covers received the ringbolts
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also the planking of the upper part is coming to an end ...... to be continued (hopefully tomorrow)
Many Thanks for your interest
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Jeronimo introduced it I think. It is something from Germany. It is used to sanding.
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Hallo John alias @oldflyerUwe,
as always so perfect....
BTW - how did you make those perfect square bits? did you just square off nail heads - I may have missed your technique.
I will need this when I work on the upcoming Viking ship - will leave many inside deck panels open, so will need to simulate those as well.
Your work is so encouraging
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These square bolts are made simply with shoe tacks, which have a square shank
in this topic you can find some description here:
HMS GRANADO - full hull - POF kit by CAF in 1:48 - by Uwe
That looks really impressive. Now I can see why Maarten also loves the CLOU.
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first time I used them in my cross section model of the HMS Granado
HMS GRANADO (1742) - midship section - POF by CAF in 1:48 - by Uwe
The frames are prepared with all the visible nails now we have to make the riders for the mortar base. These heavy stiffeners were necessary to take over the weight of the shell room with mortar and also the extreme forces of the bomb during firing all together 5 riders are under the mortar -...
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