What a beauty Uwe, I still love these cutaway models.
HMS GRANADO - full hull - POF kit by CAF in 1:48 - by Uwe
Uwe,
Wow - just catching up - Agree beyond excellent
Wow - just catching up - Agree beyond excellent
Uwe, this is a party for the eyes, what a beautiful ship you are making, and what a way to display it.
I love it
you are right and I am working on it ..... means I think about it how to make it - I guess it will be brasstubes somehow similar like the Leightley-modelBut you need to come up with a better alternative to the sanding blocks, they detract from the model.
but with three tubes, because I will cut the masts
In my opinion Lightley made a small mistake, because the masts have a small inclination of 2 or 3 percent, so therefore with the height distance the upper part has to be more aft - or it is looking more dynamic .....
A good question
we can see on the Lightley model, that the mast has a bigger distance from the doors
I followed here more, or better strict the information given by Goodwin in his drawings - and here the mast food is much closer to the doors or shell storage
I can imagine, that Lightley installed relatively late the mast and the mastfoot, therefore his main mast is not inclined and more or less vertical - which is not really correct
I argue for my model,
that the doors would be able to be opened - The small inclination of the mast is more visible
-> one dead you have to die
and to all writting some comments or hitting the like button => Many Many thanks for this and your interest in my building log
I was thinking that the top half could just hang on longer mast sections. The mast rake may cause some issues but I still think that's how I would try it.
some smaller pillars (under main deck beams) and two stairways were made and installed - somehow the "walkway to heaven"
Many Thanks for your interest ....... to be continued .....
Many Thanks for your interest ....... to be continued .....
I can only repeat it, simply a super model, beautifully executed.
magnificent workmanship. Great attention to detail. Bravo.
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Ewe, great pictures of a super build, I can only add my admiration on your achievement
That looks wonderful !!!
Ditto and ditto
Good morning Uwek. A question for you. I'm learning for my next ship which I plan to do a tad more accurate than my previous. Treenails. British ships during this period, used a combination of wood and metal nailing. My interpretation : the decks and outer hull were wood nails, while much of the interior and bulkwarks were metal. I think the wales are also metal. Do you have any good references I can look at regarding this. I have some French references, however they used different configurations to the British. Cheers Grant
Many Thanks to @pianoforte , @Steef66 , @Mirek , @KurtFink , @Ken , @Corsair and @GrantTyler for your kind words and comments and also for all the likes received - I like it very much to get comments and try to answer all the question, especially if I do know the answer - or to give my try to answer, also and maybe especially when there is some additional research necessary.
somehow, the use of wooden treenails, or bolts (circular or rectangle, in iron or copper) on my model(s) is off course somehow my personal taste, but also based on some knowledge from different publications. And this "knowledge" is grown over the years with the different models
My Granado model is following as much as possible the given informations by Peter Goodwin in his Anatomy of Ships series
so let us take a first look here - in some sketches are some iron bolts shown (photos taken from my hard-disc of my PC - there are more in the book)
for the frames and the keelson
for the keel
also the mast foots
Bowsprit step
lodging and hanging knees + beam arms connections
I am pretty sure, that there is also something visible or written about using bolts for the wales and / or the inner thick stuff
But I think, that all structural elements with some specific thickness were connected with metal / iron bolts and not with wooden treenails - they can not be made so long
slightly contrary about the construction of frames (especially related to chock connections) is written in Laverys book - here he is writing "bolts and trennals"
Dear Grant,
somehow, the use of wooden treenails, or bolts (circular or rectangle, in iron or copper) on my model(s) is off course somehow my personal taste, but also based on some knowledge from different publications. And this "knowledge" is grown over the years with the different models
My Granado model is following as much as possible the given informations by Peter Goodwin in his Anatomy of Ships series
Book review - Book Review: "The Bomb Vessel GRANADO (Anatomy of the Ship)" by Peter Goodwin
Book Review: The Bomb Vessel GRANADO (Anatomy of the Ship) by Peter Goodwin Hardcover: 128 pages Publisher: Conway Maritime Press; New edition edition (21 April 2005) Language: English Product Dimensions: 26 x 1.9 x 24.1 cm Synopsis: Built as a floating siege engine able to...
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so let us take a first look here - in some sketches are some iron bolts shown (photos taken from my hard-disc of my PC - there are more in the book)
for the frames and the keelson
for the keel
also the mast foots
Bowsprit step
lodging and hanging knees + beam arms connections
I am pretty sure, that there is also something visible or written about using bolts for the wales and / or the inner thick stuff
But I think, that all structural elements with some specific thickness were connected with metal / iron bolts and not with wooden treenails - they can not be made so long
slightly contrary about the construction of frames (especially related to chock connections) is written in Laverys book - here he is writing "bolts and trennals"
Hallo Grant,
take also a look at this film (today posted by @Steef66 - once more many thanks) which is making the dimensions visible
Build of a wooden ship.
Just found this, it shows a time of craftsmen building a huge wooden ship. https://www.danmarkpaafilm.dk/film/skibet
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BTW: also very interesting to the end of the film is the fixing of the deck planking with iron bolts and the closing of the holes with wooden plugs
Uwe's response should answer your questions.
I think this is a typo but I may be wrong...
.. it looks like the last 8 pages are copies of pages from Peter Goodwin's book The Construction and Fitting of the English Man of War, first published in 1987 rather than from a book by Brian Lavery. For additional information such as the number and size of bolts for each part on each size ship, they are shown in the scantlings in the Establishments of 1719, 1745, and 1750. For later ships similar information can be found in the Shipbuilder's Repository and Steel's Elements and Practice of Naval Architecture. All of these can be found in the binder book from SeaWatch Books, Scantlings of Royal Navy Ships.
You are Correct ..... it is from this bookI think this is a typo but I may be wrong...
Book review - The Construction and Fitting of the Sailing Man-of-War, 1650-1850" by Peter Goodwin
From the early beginning of this review: This book is very recommended and is a invaluable reference for ship modeling. In my opinion a "Must Have" The Construction and Fitting of the Sailing Man-of-War, 1650-1850 (Conway's History of Sail) (Hardcover) by Peter Goodwin (Author) Hardcover: 288...
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Yes - definitely helpful - often I mix them up
Book review - Book Review / Look Inside: "The Arming and Fitting of English Ships of War, 1600-1815" by Brian Lavery
Arming and Fitting of English Ships of War 1600-1815 by Brian Lavery Hardcover: 319 pages Publisher: Naval Inst Pr; 1st Edition edition (March 1, 1988) Language: English ISBN-10: 0870210092 ISBN-13: 978-0870210099 Product Dimensions: 10.2 x 1 x 12 inches Shipping Weight: 3.9 pounds...
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and the third one very helpful is the Lees
Book review - The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War, 1625-1860" by James Lees
An other cornerstone in each private library describing the mast, spars and the complex rigging work should be The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War, 1625-1860 By James Lees Publisher: Naval Institute Press; 2nd Rev edition (October 1984) Pages: 212 ISBN-10: 0870219480...
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