HMS Jalouse - Caldercraft by Ted

Smithy said:
Ah, this is a very bright yellow coloured ‘ochre’. If I had realised this would be your shade I’d have strongly advised priming with a white or pink primer. A thin one that wouldn’t obscure your wood grain but which would cover the variations in the wood’s colours.

Yellow is notoriously poor in opacity. I think of ochre as a yellowish brown and brown paint is good in this respect. My apologies.
Click to expand...
I'll second that. I put on a second coat using leftover Model Expo Yellow ochre hull paint. It's more opaque and I like the results.
IMG20250405082447.jpg
 
on most builds I've seen the gun ports are lined with timber. My plans and instructions don't mention them. Do you think this is something I'm supposed to know and do on my own. Something like the lack of rabbets on the plans I missed that are now haunting me.
Note the tear out on the bulwark. Similar to the Swift model I built. I'm blaming the 25 plus year old wood as I have been using backing while filing.




IMG20250407123830.jpg
 
Last edited:
Ted Robinson said:
on most builds I've seen the gun ports are lined with timber. My plans and instructions don't mention them.
Click to expand...
Hi Ted
It is a good idea to check information based on contemporary sources to find if something is amiss such as this mistake in the instructions. If only one book can be picked, Goodwin's The Consruction and Fitting of the English of Men of War is a good choice as it covers a wide range of years. The gun port linings have been discussed in some detail here at SoS, but just in case a search does not turn up everything you need, the following may help. These cover both plank on frame and plank on bulkhead builds.

Allan

There are both sills as well as the stops (linings) as shown below. The stops are shown in red. There were stops on the sides and top of the lower sill but no stops on the bottom of the upper sills. The stops are recessed so the port lids close flush with the surrounding planking
1744070940406.png

For plank on bulkhead there are still sills and stops, but the construction is different to account for the large gap between the bulkheads.
1744071105125.jpeg
The below shows the ports in two layers as was actually done for obvious reasons, but on a small scale model this is often made up with just the outboard layer of planks which ran in line with the adjacent planking on the hull.

1744072035019.png
 
AllanKP69 said:
Hi Ted
It is a good idea to check information based on contemporary sources to find if something is amiss such as this mistake in the instructions. If only one book can be picked, Goodwin's The Consruction and Fitting of the English of Men of War is a good choice as it covers a wide range of years. The gun port linings have been discussed in some detail here at SoS, but just in case a search does not turn up everything you need, the following may help. These cover both plank on frame and plank on bulkhead builds.

Allan

There are both sills as well as the stops (linings) as shown below. The stops are shown in red. There were stops on the sides and top of the lower sill but no stops on the bottom of the upper sills. The stops are recessed so the port lids close flush with the surrounding planking
View attachment 512168

For plank on bulkhead there are still sills and stops, but the construction is different to account for the large gap between the bulkheads.
View attachment 512169
The below shows the ports in two layers as was actually done for obvious reasons, but on a small scale model this is often made up with just the outboard layer of planks which ran in line with the adjacent planking on the hull.

View attachment 512170
Click to expand...
Thanks. I'm assuming I should install them. It won't be to this level of detail though.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top