HMS Jalouse - Caldercraft by Ted

AllanKP69 said:
PLEASE PLEASE do not cut square holes in the trucks. :) There have been a number of posts here at SoS about an easy way to round the axles with a home made axle cutter. The drawing with a square axle is pure fantasy. You might take a look at post #36 at this link: https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/...d-48-1695-1-64-scale.15460/page-2#post-420156
You can make these using appropriate sized tubing so no need for a lathe or such. There was a great thread by Jimsky https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/aftermarket-naval-guns-parts-to-upscale-part-2-3.13209/ as well on making an axle cutter from tubing with hand tools. The OD of the rounded part of the axle is about the same dimension as the thickness of the carriage brackets Looking at the drawing from the kit that you posted the cannon looks more like a Borgard pattern gun (1716-1724) than a Blomefield which would be appropriate for Jalouse. The Blomefields (circa 1790-1835) had no chase astragal on the barrel. See pic of a Blomefield below: View attachment 495520
If you are happy with the kit guns, go for it. If you would rather something like the pic, I would be happy to send you STL drawings to have them 3D printed with the ring and cypher included.

Sorry if some of the terms are not clear. The following drawing of an Armstrong pattern gun and carriage explains better than words. This is the wrong pattern for Jalouse but I hope you find the names of the parts helpful.
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I hope you find the above useful or at least interesting.
Allan
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This really interesting butis far beyond my abilities and tooling.
I'm building an out of the box type model with some enhancements where I am able.
The articles by @Jimsky are really beautifully done
Happy mode
 
Ted Robinson said:
I'm having trouble finding any drawings other than I've profile
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Hi Ted,
There are 16 drawings of Jalouse 1809 that I was able to find (some are also of her sister Dauntless 1808.) I have not looked at all of them, but when you look at each individually check the dates given. If some are from after her launch, they would likely be as-builts so extremely accurate This should take you to the page at RMG Collections
https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/search/Jalouse?
Allan
 
I purchased a Master cutter and a planking strip plane from Amati. Can't get screenshots for some reason. They should be here in a couple of weeks.
I'm holding off on planking until I get them. I want to use the first planking to improve my skills I preparation of my next single planked hull.
In the meantime I'll work on a cannons or deck furniture
 
I was able to copy the url's but unable to copy the photos.

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Thanks Ted. I can see the planer set up working really well to get the taper of the breadth of the planks. I really look forward to your reports on how it works out.
Allan
 
Here's my first cannon carriage. None of the hardware is attached yet. I'm researching how much hardware will be included. The kit only shows the cap square and single eyebolt for the rigging that restrains the cannon when fired.
I have to sidetrack and try to make some eyebolts to scale before going any further.IMG20250120055509.jpgIMG20250120055523.jpg
 
Jalouse 1809 would have carried Blomefield guns and carriages. Drawings of the guns and carriages are below that should help with the hardware on the carriages.
These later carriages had breasts and side cleats. The carriage drawing is from Congreve. The second picture is part of the painting The Death of Nelson at the Battle of Trafalgar by Daniel Maclise. Note that the edges of the carriages were beveled at this point in time and beyond although the painting does not show this. Comgreve's drawing does not show the eyebolt for the train tackle for some reason. I am very sure there would be one present at the rear of the carriage
Allan

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Ted Robinson said:
The kit only shows the cap square and single eyebolt for the rigging that restrains the cannon when fired.
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Sorry I forgot to mention, there were two eye bolts on each bracket as well as the ring bolt through which the breeching line passed.
Allan
 
Due to the scale and my abilities I was shooting for the three eyebolts and rings on each side of the gun carriage as well as the one at the back. I just discovered that the parts list shows 400 copper eyelets and no eyebolts. The copper eyelets are missing from the kit. Im quite capable of making the eyebolts but am not sure how large the opening should be.
I'll experiment some and select the size that looks appropriate.
I'm not a purest in that I don't posses the patience to research the available data to assure that the results are accurate and absolutely to scale. I'm just an old codger making a model boat from a kit. This one happens to be the Jalouse. I thought it was pretty and would be fun to build. So I'm essentially not capable of consulting contracts or archival drawings.
My physical condition is severe COPD, stage 3 kidney disease and cataracts.
The medications cause my hands to shake pretty good in some days, better on others. They said they would operate on my cataract immediately but refuse since my vision corrects to 20/20. Most of the physical problems are the result of chemical expose during my youth in a little country in south East Asia.
As I sit here today Im a happy modeler enjoying a newfound pastime.
Best regards
Ted
 
After looking at the eyebolts made with the new wonder tool I believe they are about ,5mm to .75 mm too big. I was taking me over a minute to make one by hand vs about 5 seconds and the tool is consistently accurate vs my efforts. I'm sticking with the tool on this model.IMG20250121162209.jpg
 
I made about 200 eyebolts with the wire I purchased at Joann's. When I tried using Brass Black it had no effect. Evidently the manufacturer has coated the wire to prevent tarnishing. There was a little tell tale area where the wire has been cut at the tips that blackened. I'm at loss as to how I can remove this coating
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Sometimes I post a comment or problem prior to giving it any critical thought only to quickly come up with the solution.
I torched the source wire as if anealing and it blackened easily.
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Ted Robinson said:
I'm at loss as to how I can remove this coating
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Some finishes can be removed by soaking the pieces in acetone or mineral spirits until fhe finish appears to be gonethen soak them in a pickling solution such as made using Sparex crystals until they appear dull which can be from ten minutes to an hour in my experience. One of many sources for the Sparex is at
https://www.jewelrysupply.com/Spare...k-rzwDkBAy0hwRl3Fygrg30LH1602P4YaArKsEALw_wcB Hope this helps

Allan
 
I'm looking at a Dremel Dremel 220-01 Rotary Tool Work Station with MultiPro Keyless Chuck


Does anyone have any experience with this tool
 
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