HMS Jalouse - Caldercraft by Ted

[Ted Robinson]

U dusted it off and took another picture

 

[Ted Robinson]

The instructions call for installing the rudder hinges next.
Would these be installed before the coppering or in top of the copper.
In addition, the factory opening isn't large enough to allow the rudder to turn more the about 10 degrees.
Is the front of the rudder rounded or beveled. Nothing indicated on the plans

 

[Ted Robinson]

I want to do rigging on the cannons. The plans just show them glued to the deck. I sent an email to Jokita Ltd for the appropriate sizes for the blocks and hooks. Who knows if I will ever hear back.

 

[AllanKP69]

Assuming her armament was all 32 pounder Carronades, based on the drawing from Dupin the running tackle blocks were likely about 6" long. The rope would be about 2" circumference and the breech rope would be about 5 inch circumference. There is good information on tackle for long guns, but I have never been able to find definitive data on Carronade rigging. If anyone can share a source on this information that would be great. I could not find info in Falconer, Dupin, or elsewhere in other than drawings, so far.
Thanks
Allan

 

[Smithy]

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Interesting that the eyebolt and ring bolt go all the way through the bulwark; something I’ve always tried to avoid doing on my models.

 

[Ted Robinson]

Assuming her armament was all 32 pounder Carronades, based on the drawing from Dupin the running tackle blocks were likely about 6" long. The rope would be about 2" circumference and the breech rope would be about 5 inch circumference. There is good information on tackle for long guns, but I have never been able to find definitive data on Carronade rigging. If anyone can share a source on this information that would be great. I could not find info in Falconer, Dupin, or elsewhere in other than drawings, so far.
Thanks
Allan
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I believe they were 8 pounders

 

[Ted Robinson]

Interesting that the eyebolt and ring bolt go all the way through the bulwark; something I’ve always tried to avoid doing on my models.

I saw something similar on Olha Batcherov's recent video. Interesting but beyond my abilities

 

[AllanKP69]

Hi Ted,

I found some data on the Cormorant class sloops of which Jalouse was a part, being in the second batch of 24 vessels launched between 1806 and 1813. These 24 carried 32 pounder carronades. The first batch of seven ships all launched in 1794 carried sixteen 6 pounder long guns when launched then converted soon thereafter to sixteen 24 pounder carronades and eight 12 pounder carronades.

From what I could find Jalouse would have had sixteen 32 pounder carronades, eight 18 pounder carronades and two 6 pounders. Hope this helps.

Allan

 

[Ted Robinson]

Really, this kit only has 18 cannons.
So much for historical accuracy

 

[Ted Robinson]

Drilled the holes in the cats heads and assembled the bumpkins.
I can't seem to get accurate spacing. Need an x,y table

 

[Smithy]

Drilled theView attachment 517092 holes in the cats heads and assembled the bumpkins.
I can't seem to get accurate spacing. Need an x,y table

I make pilot holes with a scriber or a needle mounted in a paintbrush handle. They help to keep the drill from wandering.

 

[AllanKP69]

Interesting that the eyebolt and ring bolt go all the way through the bulwark; something I’ve always tried to avoid doing on my models.

I just looked at photos of a dozen contemporary models at Preble Hall in Annapolis and not one shows the bolts coming out the outer planking so we are not alone in not having them come through the hull of our models. In full size construction, it makes sense to have more than just an eyebolt without something to secure it, but for a model?????
Allan

 

[Smithy]

I just looked at photos of a dozen contemporary models at Preble Hall in Annapolis and not one shows the bolts coming out the outer planking so we are not alone in not having them come through the hull of our models. In full size construction, it makes sense to have more than just an eyebolt without something to secure it, but for a model?????
Allan

It’s true that recoil is far less on a model but the advantage as I see it, of through bolting is that it’s easier to drill all the way than stop at a particular depth.

I’ll try nipping the brass shank off with flush cutters and applying a blob of thick paint to represent the (square?) nut.

 

[AllanKP69]

I’ll try nipping the brass shank off with flush cutters and applying a blob of thick paint to represent the (square?) nut.

If you use copper instead of brass, a touch of diluted liver of sulfur with a small brush or finger tip will blacken it and not stain the wood. One of the reasons I switched to copper in place of brass where possible.
Allan