HMS Victory Mantua 1:78 (first build) by Grant Tyler

”Say What”, clews, lizards, mouse? Whats next? Monkey fist?
- Pray, are lambs a part of the ship? I have read the Marine Dictionary until the pages have begun to come out, to understand the actions; but I do not remember any lambs.
- They may well be. There are horses, fishes, cats, dogs and mice in their barbarous jargon; and bears; so I dare say there are lambs, rams, ewes, wethers and tegs. But these particular animals are for your nourishment: they are literally lambs.
(c) Post Captain by Patrick O'Brian.
 
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Hi Grant!

A tip for making an end knot. Secure one end with glue and then cut it off.

For the "Arrangement of blocks at clue of course" Longridge recommends simply threading all three blocks onto a ring. This also eliminates the need for complicated knots.

Best regards
Thomas
Thank you indeed Thomas. (. @ConsNZ- I may now be able to thanks to Thomas. )
Cheers Grant
 
I would not recommend getting carried away with the elements and details of the vessel and rigging, which we see in the photo from the museum ship.
These photos were taken prior to a major renovation started in 2012 by new Curator Andrew Bates, who is determined to really restore HMS Victory Trafalgar's look to the moment.The quality of the rigging of the sample until 2012 (part of which is covered with metal wire) can be judged from the photo (there is simply no block here at all).For high-quality restoration of rigging, I recommend the books by K. Markvardt "Spar, rigging and sails of ships of the 18th century" and L.Andersson's album "Rigging Period Ship Model"

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i do agree with you. there are varius mistakes and wrong riggen limes-as far i can see from the photos.
 
here are a few images from my huge collection. I have en fat the completete riggen- both standing-running riggen yards and finally running riggen maintaining the sails
Hi Grant,
Great work.
I assume you practice your rigging even at the dinner table when you get given spaghetti LL!!!
here are some pic,

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Good morning. Still trying to decide how to do the blocks for the Clueline, tack and sheet on lower course.

So : Finished off the braces for the main course (sounds like dinner time ROTF )

Crossjack brace:
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These are the bracelines which cross over each and run through the blocks attached to the aft most main shroud. They are not tied off.

Main yard brace:

The standing end is attached to an eyelet on the bulkward at the aft of the poop deck. It runs up to the brace block on the end of the yard and back through a snatch block on the poop deck railing under the netting. I have not tied this off.
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Eyelet and snatch block. Block made from 2x2 birch. It is a little small but the Mantua netting was not made for this configuration. Had to do another “Grant Mod”.
Lizard: (another reptile for the Victory). The Lizard are pendants tied to the Mizzen shroud which the brace runs through. Grants interpretation:
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Main course thus far :
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Cheers Grant
Hi Grant,
I hope you don't mind me asking but I noticed that in the mesh you have going around the outer edge of the ship is what looks like continues bundles of white material.
The reason I ask this Is I will soon be trying to make these for 'my little Victory' (See my build log) and was lead to believe that the sailors put there individual rolled up hammocks in there to air so that they will not start to rot.
So I am now a little unsure what the mesh is for.
Or is this something that you are planning to do at a later date.
 
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Just to show how difficult it is to knot a "monkey fist" using 3 mm blocks as an example. In Rochefort I bought my youngest daughter earrings with this knot. They are 10 mm in size and therefore huge. It is no wonder that my dear friend Grant has massive problems to reproduce this knot in minature in its small scale.

Best regards
Thomas
 
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Hi Grant. It’s good to visualize how rigging of the lines is without sails. It’s almost the same as with furled sails. The main thing is to calculate the length of the lines because it are at most the others than in the drawing diagrams. ;). As you showed with the sheet lines.
Regards, Peter
I do not totally agree, as with a ship without a sail, you have no running riggen mowing the sail, only the riggen mowing the yards up or down and sidewards.,. with sails, you add more than 30% running riggen-the one mowing and main maintain the sails
 
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