under this www. page you have a clear instructions of how to make.
HMS Victory Mantua 1:78 (first build) by Grant Tyler
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Then we have a different point of view, Poul Eric. That’s allowed on this forum.
It all depends on which lines you ad. But you are correct when it’s about the lines on the inside of the sail themselves.Regards, Peter
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No, what book is this page from?
Thank you for this link. Cheers Grant
Good morning Vladimir. True story. One would think I’m building Noah’s ark.
. Cheers Grant
Good morning. You are probably correct. To my understanding they all seem to fit and make sense however I am in junior school when it comes to these ships. Cheers Grant
The mesh I assume you are referring to the netting. There is netting around the entire ship in a U shape. They put their hammocks in these to dry and for protection against shot during battle. Some guys don’t include the hammocks, some individually show each hammock and I represent the hammocks covered with canvas. See my post #1934- #1955 (pages 97 and 98) where the guys gave some great advice. I also made reference to a thesis on these. In post #2006 I used a painting and decided to cover these. (Page 101) Cheers Grant
Good morning. Thank you for this it is brilliant. Looking at the pictures you have sent, my lines follow this pretty much 100%. I did not include the bowlines and there are some belay points which differ. The block and detail is different- this is due to limitations of resource and my skill level will not achieve such detail. Love your feedback . Cheers Grant
Good morning Thomas. Thank you. Yep I gave up on the monkey fist and went with your previous post. I am super happy how these have come out and will post when I have the time. Cheers Grant
Good morning. Ah yes….to include these lines or not. Personal choice I think. I love how they have added “mayhem” to my Victory and I have had so much fun reading and seeing what they do and how they go. I am extremely happy I included them. Cheers Grant
Thank you a cool reference.
Good morning Peter. True story. I’m not building a perfect ship and it is Grants Victory after all. Poul Eric knows his stuff no doubt and I certainly appreciate his knowledge and valued input. I have had so much fun adding all these running lines- hey they all work and are correctly functional. Maybe one day I will attempt a model exactly how it should be. For now I want a cool model for my pub. Cheers GrantThen we have a different point of view, Poul Eric. That’s allowed on this forum.
Regards, Peter
Good morning- I digress: FIFA World Cup. (I am a sports nut). I couldn’t help but think of all the nationalities on this forum and we are down to the last 8 now.
To my USA friends : sorry guys just not good enough.
To my Australian friends : ditto
To my Dutch Friends : Nice but I think you have been lucky. Argentina next so get your tissue boxes out.
To my French Friends : Gilbert and Co- must be super excited the lads are on fire and must be a sure bet for the final- although you play the English next.
To my English Friends. (My team- Victory’s influence) : Looking so good but up against your old foe the French next. I don’t see a Victory in the line up so I think it’s Tissue boxes your us as well.
Spain and Portugal- let’s see if you get through to the last 8- you should do however like the Dutch you guys are looking scratchy.
Sorry guys (all of us)- Brazil is looking sooo good. Not a great sea faring nation or huge ships to build but these guys are the king of soccer/football! Must be the odds on favourite.
Not everyone’s cup of tea, but has been brilliant so far
Cheers Grant
To my USA friends : sorry guys just not good enough.
To my Australian friends : ditto
To my Dutch Friends : Nice but I think you have been lucky. Argentina next so get your tissue boxes out.
To my French Friends : Gilbert and Co- must be super excited the lads are on fire and must be a sure bet for the final- although you play the English next.
To my English Friends. (My team- Victory’s influence) : Looking so good but up against your old foe the French next. I don’t see a Victory in the line up so I think it’s Tissue boxes your us as well.
Spain and Portugal- let’s see if you get through to the last 8- you should do however like the Dutch you guys are looking scratchy.
Sorry guys (all of us)- Brazil is looking sooo good. Not a great sea faring nation or huge ships to build but these guys are the king of soccer/football! Must be the odds on favourite.
Not everyone’s cup of tea, but has been brilliant so far
Cheers Grant
Those three sentences have hooked me. I will now have to read all 120+ pages of this build to find out how you won through all of the difficulties. I cheated and looked at the last pages and it's clear that you have been 'Victory-ous'
I'm building the OcCre Beagle which is very similar. It is built down to a price and has some inaccuracies to correct. I am loving my Beagle too. I don't think it will look perfect when I have finished but I will have learned a lot and most importantly will have had a lot of fun.
This is another reason for me to read all of your thread. I will learn more from your mistakes than I would from the 'perfect' builds of the experts, who are just too advanced for me to copy at this point in my shipbuilding. It also encourages me to write about my mistakes without embarrassment so that other beginners can learn from me (and maybe I'll come up with something for the experts too).
I like the way your planking improved from the first layer to the second.
So many gun ports, so many guns! This would drive me crazy so I salute your persistence, Grant. How do you keep your concentration doing the same operations over and over again?
It looks like the varnish you used was water based? Maybe that was the problem. I've been using 'sanding sealer' which is shellac dissolved in alcohol with some additional filling material. It soaks into the wood and really makes the grain figure GLOW, but the alcohol evaporates out quickly and doesn't seem to cause any problems with shrinkage or swelling.
I like this risk taking approach, which we might not be doing if we were working on those top level expensive kits...
I thought the salmon pink had been confirmed as the true colour of the Victory in Nelson's day. Didn't they find traces of it during restoration work? Anyway, it doesn't really matter when we are trying to make a great looking model rather than a perfect replica (which is impossible anyway). Delegating the decision to the ladies was a brilliant idea. Keep them involved and they will give us more time to build!
I don't know yet what you did with those balustrades but to my eye, they look fine in the contrasting colour. It adds interest.
I'm a messy builder too and should accept the fact instead of blaming myself so much.
By this stage the hull looks superb. Not messy now!
Grant, you gave yourself the licence to play - well done.
How often we talk about 'working' on our 'project' as though we were getting paid to do something we really would prefer not to be doing. I'm retired and try to avoid work as much as possible (though I still have to wash the dishes). I prefer to think of my time at the bench as playing with my toys.
I realise that this is a big reply to that first big post of yours. I'll try not to flood your thread with comments on stuff from the distant past as I work my way through the rest of it.
Personally I think the slight misalignment that will result from not using a jig will add 'soul' to the model and will actually be more realistic too. From my time in the military, I doubt that the guns were often arranged 'inch perfect' apart from the occasional Royal Inspections.
The style is a typical Wolfram zu Mondfeld sketch - but I can be wrong
Howzit Grant, I've been away for six weeks on the KwaZulu-Natal South Coast, and hence very much out of the loop with everyone's build logs, but as I was about to depart South Africa again I noticed this shop in Joburg airport which reminded me of you, can't imagine why, and I felt compelled to post it on the forum ...
I don't WANTS TO GO INTO A FIGHT HERE( IN FACT I HAME BEEN a MEMBER 4 YEARS PLUS, AND HAVE BUILS MORE THAN 30 MODELS ONER MY 50 YEARS OF BUILBING ) APART FROM SAILOR AND NAVY LIFE. BORN ON THE NORTHWEST COAST OF DENMARK. I HAVE HAD SHIPS AROUND ME MY. TO . ONE THE NEARLY 80 YEARS OF LIFEThen we have a different point of view, Poul Eric. That’s allowed on this forum.
Regards, Peter
TO MY THERE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERNTS RUNNING RIGGEN_ONE WHICH ARE ONLY MOWING -UP OR DOWN-SIDEWARDS THE YARDS
THE OTHER ONE IS THE ONE WHICH MOWE, SET FAST AND MANY OTHER THINGS- BUT NOT MIXED DIRECTLY WITH THE YARDS. WILL ADD -IN THIS CASE, THE BOWSPRIT -THE ONE MOWING THE YARDS "RED COLOUR AND THE MOWING THE SAILS IS IN BLUE. IN A FEW DAYS I WILL HAVE THE REST. THERE ABOUT 35 PIC ENDING UP WITH THE FASTING POINT ACCORDING TO THE COLOUR.
Yes there is.
Let's assume you want to paint black paint over a white background which is already applied.
- First apply the masking tape over the white and press it down firmly.
- Then paint over the edge of the tape with white paint. This seals any gaps and any white paint which flows under the tape won't be visible against the existing white.
- Then paint the black.
Keep the layers of paint as thin as possible so that you don't get a ridge developing and be careful peeling off the masking tape so that you don't flake off the black. (Pull the tape back against itself instead of straight upwards.)
Oooooooo, please don't do that in Grants build log, Poul Eric!!! Unless Grant appreciates it. (I don't need them.)
I am deeply sorry that I was stepping on ............. well, my excuses that this happens in your build-log, Grant.
Regards, Peter
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