HMS Victory Mantua 1:78 (first build) by Grant Tyler

Good morning. The sun comes up early here in December and my modeling time is no longer. So little progress. Been riding in the mountains and playing Padel Tennis.

If you guys have not tried this new “craze” Padel Tennis (well here in SA) it is so much fun. Basically a combination of Tennis and squash on a smaller tennis court with squash walls at the back. Fast, flows, good rally’s and loads of banter.

Ok back to rigging : The span of blocks for the Clueline, tack and sheet for SB fore yard.

1. My strop (no monkey fist I used Thomas knot he sent earlier)
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The clue line is made fast to the yard, runs through the clue block in the strop, back up to a block on the yard and belays to the fore pin rack.
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The sheet : I made a faux sheave in the side of the hull just above and aft of the 7th gunport. The standing end of the sheet is attached to an eyelet just in front of the 7th gunport .It runs up through the sheet block in the strop and back through the sheave. It belays to a cleat on the upper gundeck. (I will not be doing this cleat as I will never get in there and it will not be seen.)
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Those terrible gunport frames from Mantua are discolouring and it’s not a bad thing as it takes the brass shine away.
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The tack is made fast to the boomkin and runs through the tack block in the strop and back to a block on the outermost part of the boomkin. It belays to the outer knighthead .
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I have not tied these off as will do all 4 and then finish them off. I am super happy how these look on Grants Victory.
Cheers Grant

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the images below are from my first build late 60 early 70. the first image was my first big build -1973-75- of the danish warship NORSKE LOVE with a lot of mistakes, as at that time there was NO INFO available, more than what came with a bow, but it took my heart with all is a failure. I Has to be mentioned, that the kit WAS not LASER CUT, all by and. SAme ship, build 5 years later, but now laser cut, and with KEEL, FALSE KEEL, BOW, AND STERN PARST CUT IN ONE part. to make the different measure between keel and falls kell, a 1,5mm list was glued to the keel part, as well bow and stern, so it was easy to make a Gardbord. both she had only one layer of planking- no second planking was used.. the third image were 45 years -after having been exposed in the top fish restaurant in front of the Midditiranien cost (without protection )so after 15 years I tooke them both back in their bad health, so out of the two i made this the third one with some modification. with 50 years she went out on her las voyage

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Good job El Capi… I need to get back to work on my NL…
 
That’s luck for us: More posts to come! And to see how you are going to brew all this through all the rope work.:) With just a few lines on my BN, I was the day before yesterday 2x hanging behind a rope.:mad: I need a other mindset during the rigging.;)
Regards, Peter
Good morning Peter. Last night I looked at your rigging and work on your BN. True it has significantly less lines, however your rigging and detail work is simply magnificent. When I read the Art of Rigging I thought there is no way so much detail could be included into a model. You proved me wrong. If one really puts their mind and thought into it (like you have on your BN) it definitely can be achieved. The Victory would take 10 years or more to build tho;). Your mindset and approach to your build as I posted to you is an example to us all for sure. Thanks Grant.
 
Peter's Bluenose isn't finished by far and he's approaching his third year on the shipyard, just saying. :cool:
….it is something I wish I had done when doing the woodworking on my Victory- spent a lot more time on the details. ( Rookie mistake). E.g. Making proper gun port frames, details and scratch hinges on the ports, doing the wales accurately (Mantua ones are way out), making sheaves properly( the Victory has a ton of them), scratch making the cannons ( kit supplied ones are sad), the stern cabin…etc etc. Even the rigging- maybe attempting more how “The art of rigging “ suggests with knots, splicing etc. Would I have 10 years in my personality…that is the unanswered question. Ok it’s answered- nope. ROTF

Don’t get me wrong I am very happy with Grants Victory (definitely no regrets)and plenty of fun is being had. Peter got it right from the start (Like Paul,Maarten ,Thomas and so many others).

Cheers Grant
 
….it is something I wish I had done when doing the woodworking on my Victory- spent a lot more time on the details. ( Rookie mistake). E.g. Making proper gun port frames, details and scratch hinges on the ports, doing the wales accurately (Mantua ones are way out), making sheaves properly( the Victory has a ton of them), scratch making the cannons ( kit supplied ones are sad), the stern cabin…etc etc. Even the rigging- maybe attempting more how “The art of rigging “ suggests with knots, splicing etc. Would I have 10 years in my personality…that is the unanswered question. Ok it’s answered- nope. ROTF

Don’t get me wrong I am very happy with Grants Victory (definitely no regrets)and plenty of fun is being had. Peter got it right from the start (Like Paul,Maarten ,Thomas and so many others).

Cheers Grant
All this might be true - but Grant's Victory will have the place of pride in Grant's Pub and that's all that matters!
 
….it is something I wish I had done when doing the woodworking on my Victory- spent a lot more time on the details. ( Rookie mistake). E.g. Making proper gun port frames, details and scratch hinges on the ports, doing the wales accurately (Mantua ones are way out), making sheaves properly( the Victory has a ton of them), scratch making the cannons ( kit supplied ones are sad), the stern cabin…etc etc. Even the rigging- maybe attempting more how “The art of rigging “ suggests with knots, splicing etc. Would I have 10 years in my personality…that is the unanswered question. Ok it’s answered- nope. ROTF

Don’t get me wrong I am very happy with Grants Victory (definitely no regrets)and plenty of fun is being had. Peter got it right from the start (Like Paul,Maarten ,Thomas and so many others).

Cheers Grant
Oh Boy, 20-20 hindsight. Nevertheless I’m very impressed by “Grant’s Victory”. Great job.
 
Good morning. A comment Peter (@Peter Voogt ) made about fitting the boats with all the lines in the way triggered an alarm bell.

Before I rig the tack, sheet and Clueline for the main yard I thought I had better check this out. Luckily I did as this became complicated.

I decided to display my barge in the hoisted position. I did it this this way so one can see into the upper gun deck.

From the book Seamanship in the age of sail:
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Lower right image : I left off lines (i) and (h). There is an inaccuracy as when the boats are hoisted the fore yard is shifted inwards and supported with line i and h. Clearly on my model my yards are symmetrical.
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I displayed my barge being lifted as in the image on the left.

This became rather difficult in trying to get all the lines tensioned so the barge is centered and in line. As these lines are temporary working lines I’m still working out where and how to tie these off so clips are all over.

Here is the damage- ;) (Just some pics)
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And a fun photo….
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Cheers Grant
 
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