Saint-Philippe 1693-POF to the Monograph by Jean-Claude Lemineur by NMBrook-1/36

Whilst I can fully understand and do experience the satisfaction of scratchbuilding a model,I have to know my physical limitations.The fact I have these conditions causes me a great deal of resentment towards my previous employer.

I worked there for a total of 21years.We specialised in building bridges out of steel.We could be expected to spend the majority of an 11.5 hour shift using 9inch angle grinders.Myself and my Supervisor flagged it up to the Production Director that are fingers were numb and tingling after every shift the first year I was there.He refused to accept this was causing us harm saying you don't get vibratory injury from grinders.This was in the first year of me working there.This carried on throughout my service,discomfort when using grinders got worse over time to the point I could only hold a small grinder for 5 minutes max.
At this point I decided to seek medical advice as the discomfort didn't go away after I stopped using the tools.I had nerve conduction tests done and was diagnosed with Carpal tunnel in both wrists and cubicle tunnel both elbows and Hand Arm Vibration syndrome.The HAVs is permanent damage to the veins in my fingers reducing the blood supply.
The specialist told me I had to give up my job!He said continue as you are and you will loose the use of your hands in 10 years.I needed the money and continued but embarked on a law suit against my employer.The day after my solicitors landed at my employer,I was laid off.I chose to take redundancy after the allotted time period of layoff had expired.
I settled out of court for a reasonably large sum but it took 2 years of wrangling.I also had a separate assessment as to the extent of my conditions.I was deemed as 20% disabled and receive Industrial disability benefit till retirement age.
Obviously I work for a different company now and worked my arse off to be promoted off the shop floor.
I have adapted my modelling techniques around my issues.I cannot hold an Xacto knife,I use a large scalpel exclusively,this seems to work ok.I cannot hold anything for a prolonged period (like carving using a rotary tool).I do have wild flinches and sometimes a sudden loss of grip causing me to drop things.Both of these have at times meant a redo on whatever I was making.I nearly dropped a plate on my Jack Russell when he was a Puppy.It smashed on the floor next to his head and he still has a fear of the sound of rattling plates.
Before diagnoses I was working on SOTs and taught myself to carve following the work of Bill Short and Janos.I cannot risk spending those hours again carving,I tried carving again on the trailboard thinking the last few years off the tools would have helped as I had regained some feeling back in my fingertips.Within two 1 hour sessions the tingly fingers were back and the loss of feeling in my fingers means I cannot feel the depth of cut like I used to be able to.
With modeling,I have admired the work of many of the masters but have never thought I can't do that,I adopted the approach I will learn how to do that,no matter how long it takes.With carving now it is a case a cannot afford to do it due to a fear of causing further irreparable damage.This is a cause of great frustration in myself.
I post on some Facebook groups as well as SOS and some of the lambasting I got from a few experienced modellers simply for choosing to have someone else make something for my model made my blood boil.I wouldn't mind so much if I claimed it was my work,but I even said who had done it.I have a hatred anyway for purist BS and snobbery.I spend a lot of time documenting stages of this build and could easily just spend it doing more building.I will be honest and did think stuff you why do I bother?I do not post pictures for some ego trip,I hope someone may find them helpful like I did earlier on in the hobby.This build got very close to going offline.This is my first scratchbuild and I have learnt very quickly that a few are a bunch of Elitist,opinionated idiots.
Sorry for the rant,I am a Moderator and should be a voice of sensibility but I build models to escape the BS in my dayjob,I don't need it in my hobby.

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
Whilst I can fully understand and do experience the satisfaction of scratchbuilding a model,I have to know my physical limitations.The fact I have these conditions causes me a great deal of resentment towards my previous employer.

I worked there for a total of 21years.We specialised in building bridges out of steel.We could be expected to spend the majority of an 11.5 hour shift using 9inch angle grinders.Myself and my Supervisor flagged it up to the Production Director that are fingers were numb and tingling after every shift the first year I was there.He refused to accept this was causing us harm saying you don't get vibratory injury from grinders.This was in the first year of me working there.This carried on throughout my service,discomfort when using grinders got worse over time to the point I could only hold a small grinder for 5 minutes max.
At this point I decided to seek medical advice as the discomfort didn't go away after I stopped using the tools.I had nerve conduction tests done and was diagnosed with Carpal tunnel in both wrists and cubicle tunnel both elbows and Hand Arm Vibration syndrome.The HAVs is permanent damage to the veins in my fingers reducing the blood supply.
The specialist told me I had to give up my job!He said continue as you are and you will loose the use of your hands in 10 years.I needed the money and continued but embarked on a law suit against my employer.The day after my solicitors landed at my employer,I was laid off.I chose to take redundancy after the allotted time period of layoff had expired.
I settled out of court for a reasonably large sum but it took 2 years of wrangling.I also had a separate assessment as to the extent of my conditions.I was deemed as 20% disabled and receive Industrial disability benefit till retirement age.
Obviously I work for a different company now and worked my arse off to be promoted off the shop floor.
I have adapted my modelling techniques around my issues.I cannot hold an Xacto knife,I use a large scalpel exclusively,this seems to work ok.I cannot hold anything for a prolonged period (like carving using a rotary tool).I do have wild flinches and sometimes a sudden loss of grip causing me to drop things.Both of these have at times meant a redo on whatever I was making.I nearly dropped a plate on my Jack Russell when he was a Puppy.It smashed on the floor next to his head and he still has a fear of the sound of rattling plates.
Before diagnoses I was working on SOTs and taught myself to carve following the work of Bill Short and Janos.I cannot risk spending those hours again carving,I tried carving again on the trailboard thinking the last few years off the tools would have helped as I had regained some feeling back in my fingertips.Within two 1 hour sessions the tingly fingers were back and the loss of feeling in my fingers means I cannot feel the depth of cut like I used to be able to.
With modeling,I have admired the work of many of the masters but have never thought I can't do that,I adopted the approach I will learn how to do that,no matter how long it takes.With carving now it is a case a cannot afford to do it due to a fear of causing further irreparable damage.This is a cause of great frustration in myself.
I post on some Facebook groups as well as SOS and some of the lambasting I got from a few experienced modellers simply for choosing to have someone else make something for my model made my blood boil.I wouldn't mind so much if I claimed it was my work,but I even said who had done it.I have a hatred anyway for purist BS and snobbery.I spend a lot of time documenting stages of this build and could easily just spend it doing more building.I will be honest and did think stuff you why do I bother?I do not post pictures for some ego trip,I hope someone may find them helpful like I did earlier on in the hobby.This build got very close to going offline.This is my first scratchbuild and I have learnt very quickly that a few are a bunch of Elitist,opinionated idiots.
Sorry for the rant,I am a Moderator and should be a voice of sensibility but I build models to escape the BS in my dayjob,I don't need it in my hobby.

Kind Regards

Nigel
Don't bother what snobs think, and for sure: don't stop your hobby & stay online... you have my respect!!!
 
Hi Nigel,
It is mainly about the fun you have in building, and reading your blogs that doesn't seem to be an issue. Secondly it is offcourse about the result, and I should say the majority can only dream about your results. So in the end you will have a breath taking model and a lot of fun.
PS maybe you can start cnc your own carvings but offcourse that comes with a lot of hours behind the PC and that is what holding me back from it at the moment.
Thanks Maarten,yes I agree I am enjoying it immensely and that is what matters the most.I have thought about CNC myself but last tme I did 3D modelling was 32 years ago and times have changed,I downloaded E machineshop free with a view to having some parts printed by shapeways for an RC build.I soon realised I wouldn't get any other building done as I would be sat at a computer for hours on end just learning how to draw something.

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
I'm still reading through this thread (I arrived at page 16) and I have to join the comments. This is crazy, in a good sense of course, and outstanding craftsmanship!! That joinery is some serious carpenters skill! Respect.
The determination to even start a build like this... o_O
 
Siento mucho tus limitaciones físicas, te respeto completamente, bastante que uno hace lo que puede, yo ahora mismo llevo en la cama 1 mes y lo que me queda, me han puesto 6 tornillos en la columna y no se como acabará todo esto, creo que a partir de ahora voy a tener muchas limitaciones, sigue como ahora, un saludo y que pases un buen dia

I am very sorry for your physical limitations, I respect you completely, rather that one does what he can, right now I have been in bed for 1 month and what I have left, they have put 6 screws in my spine and I do not know how this will end, I think that from now on I will have many limitations, continue as now, greetings and have a good day
 
I think that the personal challenge to excel that you set yourself and which, for you is at an extraordinary level that most of us will never achieve, is really the same thing that we all face. There is no client to satisfy, no budget and no time limit just that little inner voice egging us on to try and make this one better than the last one. This sharing of our individual endeavours at various skill levels is what make this site so rewarding. I for one have only been looking in for a short time but have already learnt so much.
 
Whilst I can fully understand and do experience the satisfaction of scratchbuilding a model,I have to know my physical limitations.The fact I have these conditions causes me a great deal of resentment towards my previous employer.

I worked there for a total of 21years.We specialised in building bridges out of steel.We could be expected to spend the majority of an 11.5 hour shift using 9inch angle grinders.Myself and my Supervisor flagged it up to the Production Director that are fingers were numb and tingling after every shift the first year I was there.He refused to accept this was causing us harm saying you don't get vibratory injury from grinders.This was in the first year of me working there.This carried on throughout my service,discomfort when using grinders got worse over time to the point I could only hold a small grinder for 5 minutes max.
At this point I decided to seek medical advice as the discomfort didn't go away after I stopped using the tools.I had nerve conduction tests done and was diagnosed with Carpal tunnel in both wrists and cubicle tunnel both elbows and Hand Arm Vibration syndrome.The HAVs is permanent damage to the veins in my fingers reducing the blood supply.
The specialist told me I had to give up my job!He said continue as you are and you will loose the use of your hands in 10 years.I needed the money and continued but embarked on a law suit against my employer.The day after my solicitors landed at my employer,I was laid off.I chose to take redundancy after the allotted time period of layoff had expired.
I settled out of court for a reasonably large sum but it took 2 years of wrangling.I also had a separate assessment as to the extent of my conditions.I was deemed as 20% disabled and receive Industrial disability benefit till retirement age.
Obviously I work for a different company now and worked my arse off to be promoted off the shop floor.
I have adapted my modelling techniques around my issues.I cannot hold an Xacto knife,I use a large scalpel exclusively,this seems to work ok.I cannot hold anything for a prolonged period (like carving using a rotary tool).I do have wild flinches and sometimes a sudden loss of grip causing me to drop things.Both of these have at times meant a redo on whatever I was making.I nearly dropped a plate on my Jack Russell when he was a Puppy.It smashed on the floor next to his head and he still has a fear of the sound of rattling plates.
Before diagnoses I was working on SOTs and taught myself to carve following the work of Bill Short and Janos.I cannot risk spending those hours again carving,I tried carving again on the trailboard thinking the last few years off the tools would have helped as I had regained some feeling back in my fingertips.Within two 1 hour sessions the tingly fingers were back and the loss of feeling in my fingers means I cannot feel the depth of cut like I used to be able to.
With modeling,I have admired the work of many of the masters but have never thought I can't do that,I adopted the approach I will learn how to do that,no matter how long it takes.With carving now it is a case a cannot afford to do it due to a fear of causing further irreparable damage.This is a cause of great frustration in myself.
I post on some Facebook groups as well as SOS and some of the lambasting I got from a few experienced modellers simply for choosing to have someone else make something for my model made my blood boil.I wouldn't mind so much if I claimed it was my work,but I even said who had done it.I have a hatred anyway for purist BS and snobbery.I spend a lot of time documenting stages of this build and could easily just spend it doing more building.I will be honest and did think stuff you why do I bother?I do not post pictures for some ego trip,I hope someone may find them helpful like I did earlier on in the hobby.This build got very close to going offline.This is my first scratchbuild and I have learnt very quickly that a few are a bunch of Elitist,opinionated idiots.
Sorry for the rant,I am a Moderator and should be a voice of sensibility but I build models to escape the BS in my dayjob,I don't need it in my hobby.

Kind Regards

Nigel
Nigel,
I'd love to be rude and say f*****m. Pardon me if I broke forum's rules. Your work has been inspiration to so many of us. Eh, purists! What are we supposed to do - plant a pear tree, watch it grow, wait 20 years, cut it down, cut it up, mill billets etc. Now your life story puzzles me even more. If I suffered as much as you have, I wouldn't be able to make a wooden cube. And what you are doing is just wonderful. Thank you and please, keep pictures coming. All the best.
 
Janos yes I know mate
I have replied to this discussion on said Facebook group after a certain rude member had wound me up and now he is shut up:mad:I cannot carve anymore to any great extent.I attempted the carving on the trailboard and struggled due to the loss of feeling I now suffer.
As I mentioned to you a good while back when I was working on SOTS,I had been diagnosed with Carpal and Cubicle tunnel in both wrists and elbows and also Hand Arm Vibration Syndrome due to 25 years in heavy industry.I hoped that it had improved since I got off the tools but it hasn't.There are operations and a lot of my friends have had them only for the condition to return in a couple of years.Bottom line is I cannot hold any tool for any length of time like I would when carving.
For me with these conditions CNC is a godsend,otherwise this model would be bare of it's carvings.The downside is the realisation that Sovereign will stay as she is.Eight years ago I thought I would have to give this hobby up.I have managed to work around my issues with many aspects of building but carving is a stumbling block now.I could build a vessel devoid of carvings but they offer less attraction to me.I will force myself to do some of the carvings,I will struggle,but at least I can say I have done some.
This reply goes against my Character,I am not a moaner I just get on with it.So going forward I shall not mention this again and just get on with modelling:)
Kind Regards

Nigel
Just ignore the idiots,95% can't carve ,I would buy them too
 
Siento mucho tus limitaciones físicas, te respeto completamente, bastante que uno hace lo que puede, yo ahora mismo llevo en la cama 1 mes y lo que me queda, me han puesto 6 tornillos en la columna y no se como acabará todo esto, creo que a partir de ahora voy a tener muchas limitaciones, sigue como ahora, un saludo y que pases un buen dia

I am very sorry for your physical limitations, I respect you completely, rather that one does what he can, right now I have been in bed for 1 month and what I have left, they have put 6 screws in my spine and I do not know how this will end, I think that from now on I will have many limitations, continue as now, greetings and have a good day

I am sorry to hear of your spinal problems.I hope that that when you have completed the treatment that you regain as much mobility as is possible.
I fell off some ladders some years ago and the base of my back landed on the corner of a wall,I ripped all the tendons in my lower back and went through months of physio therapy.I was lucky,the corner of the wall missed my spine by a couple of inches.I was told that if the wall had hit my spine it would have pushed a vertebrae through my spine severing the Spinal cord.

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
Thankyou everyone for your compliments and support.I shall continue to post and not be put off by a few idiots on Facebook.Funny though,it started an argument between others and it turns out the main culprit of the lambasting had some parts made for his build.Bloody hypocrite!I also got some likes from some seriously talented builders that I respect,just goes to show how polarising this topic is

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
NIGEL I UNDERSTAND COMPLETLY ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN ALL RESPECTS, I TOO HAVE HAD TO ADAPT MY MODELING TO MANY OF MY AILMENTS TO MANY TO GO INTO, SO FAR THE MOST TROUBLING IS I CAN NO LONGER STAND WITH OUT HOLDING ON TO SOMETHING, SO THEREFOR HAVE TO USE PINS WHEN DOING FRAMES, AS YOU WELL KNOW, BUT I TAKE WHAT JESUS HAS GIVEN ME TODAY AND FIND WAYS, AND SIR PLEASE DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE CRAP THAT IS SPEWED BY JERKS, THE BEST MEDICINE TO CAUSE THEM PROBLEMS IS TO IGNORE THEM COMPLETLY, THEY NO NOTHING ABOUT ENJOYING THIS HOBBY, AND ALSO NOT MANY OF US HAVE THE GOD GIVEN TALENTS OF YOU, JANOS, MAARTEN ETC, ETC. SO THE USE OF AN OUTSIDE SOURCE ESPECIALLY ONE LIKE KRIS MAY HIS GENIUS KEEP GOING IN WHAT HE DOES SUBERBALY AND YES I TO WILL SHOW PRODLY HIS WORK, AND AN ADMONISMENT TO YOU DO NOT DARE REPEAT DARE THINKING OF NOT POSTING IT WOULD BE A TOTAL LOSS TO THE HOBBY AGAIN TO THE MORONS SCREW YOU SLEEP ON THE WORLD TURNS WELL WITH OUT YOU. GOD BLESS STAY SAFE TO YOU AND YOURS DON
 
NIGEL I UNDERSTAND COMPLETLY ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN ALL RESPECTS, I TOO HAVE HAD TO ADAPT MY MODELING TO MANY OF MY AILMENTS TO MANY TO GO INTO, SO FAR THE MOST TROUBLING IS I CAN NO LONGER STAND WITH OUT HOLDING ON TO SOMETHING, SO THEREFOR HAVE TO USE PINS WHEN DOING FRAMES, AS YOU WELL KNOW, BUT I TAKE WHAT JESUS HAS GIVEN ME TODAY AND FIND WAYS, AND SIR PLEASE DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE CRAP THAT IS SPEWED BY JERKS, THE BEST MEDICINE TO CAUSE THEM PROBLEMS IS TO IGNORE THEM COMPLETLY, THEY NO NOTHING ABOUT ENJOYING THIS HOBBY, AND ALSO NOT MANY OF US HAVE THE GOD GIVEN TALENTS OF YOU, JANOS, MAARTEN ETC, ETC. SO THE USE OF AN OUTSIDE SOURCE ESPECIALLY ONE LIKE KRIS MAY HIS GENIUS KEEP GOING IN WHAT HE DOES SUBERBALY AND YES I TO WILL SHOW PRODLY HIS WORK, AND AN ADMONISMENT TO YOU DO NOT DARE REPEAT DARE THINKING OF NOT POSTING IT WOULD BE A TOTAL LOSS TO THE HOBBY AGAIN TO THE MORONS SCREW YOU SLEEP ON THE WORLD TURNS WELL WITH OUT YOU. GOD BLESS STAY SAFE TO YOU AND YOURS DON

Don you have my upmost respect and admiration.You are determined not to let your disabilities beat you!Both of us have to adapt to suit what we can and can't do.This may mean we stray away from the well trodden path that other modelers take but we soldier on.
Kris has provided me a lifeline with this build.Had he not be developing a 3D model for this ship already,I doubt I would be able to afford for him to do all the 3D drafting work then produce the carvings.

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
It is hard to work in miniature scale when you can't do the same work in full scale, we all do what we can and get help with the rest of things.

Keep you grand work coming and just ignore the idiots who insult your work, could they have done the same thing or better themselves.
 
THAN YOU NIGEL WE JUST KEEP GOING WITH OUT THIS HOBBY AND JUST AS IMPORTANT THE GOOD PEOPLE WE MEET ON THIS FORUM I WOULD BE TAKING A LOT OF HAPPY PILLS, MY LIFELINE ALSO IS KRIS A LIFE SAVOR BAT THE RIGHT TIME WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE LE ROCHFORTE PROPERLY AND THE HARBOR DREDGE AS A SEMI-KIT WE WILL BE HAVING DISCUSSIONS HE AND I ON THIS ONE, KEEP GOING MY FRIEND, KEEP GOING. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS STAY SAFE DON
 
Nigel, well said, not all modelers have the innate ability to create such figures, such as myself, could also prompt me to order such a figure for my Rattlesnake, unfortunately the drawing of the figure is shown from one side, and 1- 48 is very small scale, so it is made without such ornaments, greeting Knut.
 
A slight flit to another area for the time being.I am keen to get the trailboard carving fitted.First job was to glue the two halves together.I removed the excess Pear on the bandsaw but left an Outside frame in place as these two parts are extremely fragile.I then removed the part out the frame with a rotary burr cutting the little tabs.

Kris had left a frame on this part as it would be impossible to cut otherwise without it disintegrating.This frame is obviously two thicknesses and my mortice is only 1mm wide in the prow.Also the profile was slightly off for about 20mm at the aft end resulting in a 1mm gap.This comes as no great surprise as there is variations between each view on the plans and no guarantee my prow is spot on.After some headscratching I have come up with a solution.My plan is to sand the out frame off one side at a time and replace with a strip of Pear veneer.That way I can tease the carving into shape and at the same time creating something with a nice clean line between Pear and Ebpny.Not exactly historically correct but more aesthetically pleasing.
Only other issue is my Pear veneer is darker than the carving so 30minutes in the kitchen sink with some diluted bleach did the trick.Please don't ask me ratios nothing scientific about it,a small glug of Aldi cheapo bleach and an inch of water ROTF Pictures show progress up to now with the first segment of the carving gluing in place.I will work my way along a small section at a time gluing the two parts together.The item is just set flush to the outside to make it easier to clamp,it won't be glued to the prow until later,I am simply using the model as my template.

Kind Regards

Nigel

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