Saint-Philippe 1693-POF to the Monograph by Jean-Claude Lemineur by NMBrook-1/36

NMBROOK said:
Hi Frank

Yes they are two pieces in this location,Some of the floor timbers at bow and stern are made of three separate pieces one on top of the other, presumably because their size is too great for a single piece of timber

Kind Regards

Nigel
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Thanks for answering me
 
That epoxy conceals so well under finish is definitely one of it’s many great attributes. I’ve used a fair amount of West System, in the past, and it is excellent for its strength, but I developed a sensitivity to it over time.

I was also surprised to hear of Michel Saunier’s passing. I had reached out to Marc Yeu about something else, when he told me the news. It is sad and unfortunate that Michel’s Soleil Royal will remain unfinished. Owing to the disagreements between MSW and SOS, I have been censured, in the past by (MSW) for posting links (of interest) between the sites.

While I won’t post the link here, I will say that Michel kept a build-page for his project on MSW. With permission from Marc Yeu, I posted a whole photo essay of the current state of Michel’s SR, onto his build page. It is easily searchable within the site. Marc Yeu visited with Michel’s family, after services, and they allowed him to photograph the model.

As the model will soon disappear from public view, this is one last chance to appreciate the research, effort and skill that has inspired so many of us to focus on this period in French maritime history. Michel was a great help to me, as he was to so many other modelers. His persistence, talent and generosity will be missed.

Nigel, I apologize for hijacking your thread, a bit, but I thought the membership might like to see the state of Michel’s model.
 
A little bit of a update....
Firstly I have made a temporary support to hold the keel straight as I fit further frames.The next four frames have been assembled and fitted and the Gunport framing is added as I go, each time working from my reference point where top of the Frames abut my jig.So far this appears to be yielding far more crisp accurate work than if I cut these afterwards.Obviously all the bits of timber sticking out will be sanded off.I do have some Gunports of revisit in the bow section a little later on

Kind Regards

Nigel


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with this project we learn a lot new things - also that there could be a possibbility of a hanging hull
Do you have positive experiences with this way? Definitely it is looking very interesting
 
NMBROOK said:
A little bit of a update....
Firstly I have made a temporary support to hold the keel straight as I fit further frames.The next four frames have been assembled and fitted and the Gunport framing is added as I go, each time working from my reference point where top of the Frames abut my jig.So far this appears to be yielding far more crisp accurate work than if I cut these afterwards.Obviously all the bits of timber sticking out will be sanded off.I do have some Gunports of revisit in the bow section a little later on

Kind Regards

Nigel


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Good afternoon, why are the holes drilled in the floors of the wooden units not made to drain the liquids to the lowest point of the bilge?Thank you
 
Hi Uwe

The hull isn't hanging as such, it is the jig that is stood up vertically on it's end.The idea is a variation on what Gilbert McArdle describes in his Sussex book.

Building the frames up as a stack mainly allows me to use Epoxy in all the joints without it running everywhere due to gravity.

Other positives are that;
the Gunport are added as I go working to easy to measure reference and the notching is produced during assembly on my mill for the cills and ledges.

a far superior fit is easier to obtain on the infill timbers as these are added to the stack when required and reduced in thickness in situ as each frame is added to ensure correct longitudinal positioning of each frame.

Only thing I have to be careful of is that the frames are quite flexible in profile as I am currently at maximum moulded breath of the model (400mm)

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
NMBROOK said:
Hi Uwe

The hull isn't hanging as such, it is the jig that is stood up vertically on it's end.The idea is a variation on what Gilbert McArdle describes in his Sussex book.

Building the frames up as a stack mainly allows me to use Epoxy in all the joints without it running everywhere due to gravity.

Other positives are that;
the Gunport are added as I go working to easy to measure reference and the notching is produced during assembly on my mill for the cills and ledges.

a far superior fit is easier to obtain on the infill timbers as these are added to the stack when required and reduced in thickness in situ as each frame is added to ensure correct longitudinal positioning of each frame.

Only thing I have to be careful of is that the frames are quite flexible in profile as I am currently at maximum moulded breath of the model (400mm)

Kind Regards

Nigel
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Congratulations, great job
 
Frank48 said:
Good afternoon, why are the holes drilled in the floors of the wooden units not made to drain the liquids to the lowest point of the bilge?Thank you
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Hi Frank

If you mean the channels either side of the keel in the floors, that is because these will be cut when the hull is assembled and faired.That way I ensure a fair run and consistent depth as there is still some slope on the floors base as I am still nine frames from dead flat.I toyed with milling them earlier but then realised I would be sanding half the channel away.

All the keel filler blocks have had there crescent cutouts added as I have fitted them,just not shown in these pics

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
NMBROOK said:
Hi Frank

If you mean the channels either side of the keel in the floors, that is because these will be cut when the hull is assembled and faired.That way I ensure a fair run and consistent depth as there is still some slope on the floors base as I am still nine frames from dead flat.I toyed with milling them earlier but then realised I would be sanding half the channel away.

All the keel filler blocks have had there crescent cutouts added as I have fitted them,just not shown in these pics

Kind Regards

Nigel
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Thanks for answering me
 
Building the frames up as a stack mainly allows me to use Epoxy
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Hello Nigel,

your build looks very impressive. Which glue (company) are you using? I am thinking if the epoxy is an alternative for the Titebond I am in the moment using.
Can you color the glue?
 
Sorry Christian,I missed your last question.

In theory you can colour Epoxy Resin but you need a pigment from a specialist supplier.I have used it when Moulding hulls.It resembles a thick paint but I am sure chemically it is more complex than that.It may not be necessary as Epoxy will give your joints a dark but not black line.I suggest you experiment on some scrap and see if you like the results.
One thing I would say also is buy a tin of pure Acetone for cleanup, not nail varnish remover though, this is tinted and may mar the timber plus has other stuff in it.

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
Hi All

With the next frame fitted and everything extra trimmed off it is easier to see how my method of producing the gunports pan out.I also thought it was a good chance to take some pics as I have cleaned all the dust away and that doesn't happen very oftenROTFROTF

I included my coffee mug in the first pic to give a sense of the sizeo_Oo_O

I am now resided to sticking templates to timber in readiness to make a load more frames up

Kind Regards

Nigel

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