Thanxs Rich.
I only think the top nails in the mast rests are a little to big.
Regards, Peter
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I only think the top nails in the mast rests are a little to big.
Regards, Peter
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I understand the choice of nails, but given the weight that the mast foot has to bear, an understandable choice on your part to put in some other nails.
Nice challenge to planks the inside, and nice to build "Out of the box",
Respect
Nice challenge to planks the inside, and nice to build "Out of the box",
Respect
Removing the apparently too large nails from both mast steps would have too much effect on the wood. "You've secured them well, Voogt!" That is why the top of the heads has been made black, so that the accent is slightly different:
It may come across as fussy....... but it are the little things ......... and once you see it ........
No macro's yet, just the normal view on the model.
Regards, Peter
It may come across as fussy....... but it are the little things ......... and once you see it ........
No macro's yet, just the normal view on the model.
Regards, Peter
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Thanxs Henk.
You are correct, there is quite a bit of reaction force on the mast steps.
As you can see, made a tiny change.
Regards, Peter
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Hoi Peter. There are many commendable aspects to comment on here. First, this is the first Bluenose that sport waterwells - and then copper to boot! Secondly - when viewed in isolation the nail heads may look large when that part of the build is the only aspect that is focused on, but as soon as the whole build comes into view, that miniscule "oversize" is really of no significance. Thirdly, I believe that you have taken extra care in cleaning up the wood, with extremely methodical sanding - that shows and I believe that once the wood receives its finishing treatment, that will show.
Looking great Peter! Fantastic job as usual!The next step in the hull is the inner wall planking on the port side, starting on the lowest part between the keelson and the bearing beams of the lower floors. That is no part of the kit, but it is my choise.
But I still have not received the ordered wood.
So, started with the preparation of the lower floor beams and mast steps. The YQ-way, as wrote above in post #496.
Sanded all the char from the 27 beams and aligned them on the bearing beams. I had to flatten a little bit of the starboard side bearing beam:
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It needs a little more on the starboard side, thanks to the picture.
I have marked all the beam in the middle, so I could align them on the keelsom to check the fitting.
When the lower planking is done, the beams where attached to the bearing beams, inclusive the bolts. And sanding off the marks.
Then I installed the 4 copper water wells, I introduced them to you in my posts #233 and #242:
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Around them and between the lowest point between the frames comes the cast iron parts for the ballast. But that will be dumped later.
I could use my cross-table and mill for the first time, to mill the bottom of the main mast step. To fit over the keelson and sisters keelson:
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And the fitting:
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From the side, the parts are reinforced with the same bolts as in the keelson and bearing beams. From the top, the step is secured to the frame and to the sisters keelson with stronger bolts.
And the mast step for the fore mast:
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The mast step is also secured to the floor beam that lies in front.
Now you can see what different types of light affect the color of the wood.
And a overview:
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Until the wood is in, I'll continue with the pre-work on the other lower floor beams.
Regards, Peter
Heinrich, Thanks for your reply with some ‘supertatives’. I appreciate your overview on all BN-builds.
Still a small comment.
..... this is the first Bluenose that sport waterwells - and then copper to boot!
When YQ places water pumps in a frame, I have to come up with something to provide them with water
.... with extremely methodical sanding ....
I don't do anything other than in 1:1. Here's a still from the video series Rich posted about Sampson Boat Co, rebuilding the Tally Ho:
How thick is such a fitting bar in 1:72?
Here the frames also sleek and smooth, but I don't think they had any electric planers when building the original BN. But in this construction they also use the old-fashioned flat-ax:
So very interesting to watch this video-series: Here starts EP1:
Regards, Peter
Thank you, mate!Looking great Peter! Fantastic job as usual!
Regards, Peter
The beams for the lower front deck perpared. Sanded the char, and glued the blocks for the foundation of the uprights for the bowsprit and windlass:
Aligned them on the bearing beams and marked the holes for the nails.
The side of the beams against which the blocks are attached also get their nails. But I have to cut and burr new ones. The stock was already gone.
Before I start with the scratch build of the beams for the lower backside floor on the stringers, I did some extra preparation on de lower middle floor beams. I gave the ends the chamfer of the curve of the hull. And also on these beams marked the holes for the nails:
Still dry-fit, so a little hit against the jig and some beams shifted.
The ordered wood is still not arrived, so I have plenty of time.
Regards, Peter
Aligned them on the bearing beams and marked the holes for the nails.
The side of the beams against which the blocks are attached also get their nails. But I have to cut and burr new ones. The stock was already gone.
Before I start with the scratch build of the beams for the lower backside floor on the stringers, I did some extra preparation on de lower middle floor beams. I gave the ends the chamfer of the curve of the hull. And also on these beams marked the holes for the nails:
Still dry-fit, so a little hit against the jig and some beams shifted.
The ordered wood is still not arrived, so I have plenty of time.
Regards, Peter
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A small addition for the other builders for placing the blocks between the front beams. I was puzzling in which position you should place them.
There is a difference between the manual foto 80 on page 14 and the drawing fig.11:
In the drawing, the middle 2 blocks has the narrowest bar to the front. My choice was to follow the picture.
Does it matter? Several uprights on the foredeck will pass through the recesses in the floor beams of the upper deck. As neat as they are then a little straight.
You only have to make the choice yourself whether you want to have the laser lines in sight or not. Now it shows if the blocks are composed of multiple pieces.
Regards, Peter
There is a difference between the manual foto 80 on page 14 and the drawing fig.11:
In the drawing, the middle 2 blocks has the narrowest bar to the front. My choice was to follow the picture.
Does it matter? Several uprights on the foredeck will pass through the recesses in the floor beams of the upper deck. As neat as they are then a little straight.
You only have to make the choice yourself whether you want to have the laser lines in sight or not. Now it shows if the blocks are composed of multiple pieces.
Regards, Peter
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I came to the same conclusion, which way the narrow side faces ensures proper alignment! Good job recognizing that!
Thanxs, Dean.I came to the same conclusion, which way the narrow side faces ensures proper alignment! Good job recognizing that!
I see now you followed the drawing?
And your uprights slides right into position? Or did you have to adjust them?
Regards, Peter
No they lined up perfectly! The deck planks will have to be aligned to ensure they are correct, if not using the supplied sheets. I used the correct posts and put them in place when putting down the deck planks. However, the placement of the deck beams is the true alignment needed, as the edge of the notches in the beams need to align with the openings below. Once again, put the posts in place and ensure they are aligned when installing the deck beams. Then the planks will work around that. Hope that makes sense!
Top, that will be the order of placement and alignment, not using the sheets!
Regards, Peter
I edited my post to say the deck beams have to be aligned when installed so the notches align with the posts, which I temporarily placed to ensure this!
Then of course the deck planks will have to follow, using the posts as a guide!
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Well noticed by both of you
I wouldn't have seen..
Those uprights, where are they mentioned in the manual?
I wouldn't have seen..
Those uprights, where are they mentioned in the manual?
Hi Henk,
Page 28, picture 173 and 175 for the windlass, both with 2 uprights, parts #62 (2x) and #64, sheet 8-3, drawings P.5 and P.7.
Page 41, first 4 pictures for the bowsprit with 3 uprights, parts #B090 (2x) and B091, sheet 8-3, drawings P.3 and P.4.
Regards, Peter
From the sheets from which the middle lower deckbeams came, I was able to make the floor beams for the rear floor on the stringers. Because those rest partitions were nice in thickness and had the right camber:
Fitted on the stingers and between the frames, cut them in the right size, remove the char, marked the holes and drilled them:
Drilled also the holes in all the other beams:
An overview from the back, together with a total overview.
Both photos merged, otherwise it will be such a long narrow photo.
Regards, Peter
Fitted on the stingers and between the frames, cut them in the right size, remove the char, marked the holes and drilled them:
Drilled also the holes in all the other beams:
An overview from the back, together with a total overview.
Both photos merged, otherwise it will be such a long narrow photo.
Regards, Peter
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Looking good Peter!
One thing about the stern area, the main cabin is there, with stairs that go below from the doors at the upper deck by the wheel house. So I would assume that floor or deck of the cabin area would be perpendicular to the stern deck.
How that was framed internally I am not sure. But I don’t think the cabin floor was at an angle. Just something to consider if you add the cabin area.
Thanxs Dean, for thinking along. I visualized the structures on the deck and adapted my plan to them. The stairs run from back to front and then lead to the cabin. There are also level differences visible in the drawings in The Saga, so with AL-FI in it, I think my plan will fit.Looking good Peter!
One thing about the stern area, the main cabin is there, with stairs that go below from the doors at the upper deck by the wheel house. So I would assume that floor or deck of the cabin area would be perpendicular to the stern deck.
How that was framed internally I am not sure. But I don’t think the cabin floor was at an angle. Just something to consider if you add the cabin area.
Regards, Peter