Build Log: Santisima Trinidad (Occre 1:90 Scale Kit)

The first gun port (far right) third deck down looks a bit lower. I may not have cut out the top of it correctly. Will check later.

Apart from that the first 3 decks look okay to me.

Ignore the lowest deck, they will be adjusted when I plank it.

The triangle won't be seen again as it has another layer of planks to go on it.

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Stuart Little said:
I use Birchwood Brass Black on my cannons & give them a quick buff with a cloth, which produces a satin look. (Gunners tried to keep a sheen on their guns, I believe)
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Stuart I will seek to find that colour later. Just going out to take the dog for a walk.

Were the cannons you used the Birchwood Brass Black brass to begin with? Mine are grey metal. Should I use Vallejo metallic brass paint to get the same effect?

 
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Alan Clark said:
Stuart I will seek to find that colour later. Just going out to take the dog for a walk.

Were the cannons you used the Birchwood Brass Black brass to begin with? Mine are grey metal. Should I use Vallejo metallic brass paint to get the same effect?
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Hi Alan, mine were the same grey 'monkey-metal', but the Brass Black works ok as long as they're cleaned first, I gave them a couple of hours or so in acetone.
 
Alan, I bought mine from E.J.Blackley, Newton Stewart. (Gunsmiths) . Two bottles cost £28 inc. shipping. Being liquid they have to come by courier. I found them just by googling 'Blackwood Casey brass black'. A bit cheaper than 'fleabay' as some double up on postage if buying multiples as you probably already know. They do a cleaner/degreaser for £8, but as I had acetone I used that.
Perhaps you should fill in that bit at the bow to give support to the thinner 2nd. layer?
 
Alan Clark said:
Days 28 to 32 (19th to 23rd August 2021)

Work continues slowly making my way down the hull with the planking. Dry fitting the gun ports as I go. Final adjustments will be made to the gun ports when I add the wales.

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Oh my look at all the gun ports to cut out, I had a hard time lining up 15 each side on my current build, but I would still love to try a big ship like this one day.
Enjoying your build keep up the good work.
 
Good morning Alan, first of all congratulations for your work. You're doing an excellent job with the Santísima Trinidad.
Regarding the colour of the ship, it depends on when do you like to represent it. Most part of its lifespan was painted in the caracteristic bee-style but at the end (Trafalgar i.e.) was in red/black with white stripes.
If you do a little research in the web, (santisima trinidad parrilla penagos), you can find several paintings made by Carlos Parrilla Penagos, who is specialized in this type of ships.
Besides, in the web page "todo a babor" there are plenty of information about this (and many other) ship.
Here you have some interesting links...

SANTÍSIMA TRINIDAD - PROFILES AND COLORS

SANTÍSIMA TRINIDAD ADMIRALTY MODEL AT THE MNM

SANTÍSIMA TRINIDAD - HISTORY

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One last thing, when the ST participated in Trafalgar, it wore the typical lion but before, during it's career it wore Archangel Saint Michael as figurehead.
Hope it would help
Greetings
Jaime
 
Jaime R said:
Good morning Alan, first of all congratulations for your work. You're doing an excellent job with the Santísima Trinidad.
Regarding the colour of the ship, it depends on when do you like to represent it. Most part of its lifespan was painted in the caracteristic bee-style but at the end (Trafalgar i.e.) was in red/black with white stripes.
If you do a little research in the web, (santisima trinidad parrilla penagos), you can find several paintings made by Carlos Parrilla Penagos, who is specialized in this type of ships.
Besides, in the web page "todo a babor" there are plenty of information about this (and many other) ship.
Here you have some interesting links...

SANTÍSIMA TRINIDAD - PROFILES AND COLORS

SANTÍSIMA TRINIDAD ADMIRALTY MODEL AT THE MNM

SANTÍSIMA TRINIDAD - HISTORY

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One last thing, when the ST participated in Trafalgar, it wore the typical lion but before, during it's career it wore Archangel Saint Michael as figurehead.
Hope it would help
Greetings
Jaime
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Jaime

Thank you so much for all this information. It's fantastic.

I'm going to have a good read later this evening of the history in that last link you posted above.

She was a beautiful looking lady of the seas. I can't wait to complete her.

We have chosen the Vallejo red 70.926 as the red to use for the hull:



Alan
 
Hey Alan, glad that gap at the bow has gone! Your choice of red is close to mine with 70-908 [carmine], but I've also got Wisconsin Central Railroad maroon, so I can foresee some tinting going on, unless I choose yellow/black. I will no doubt be making wooden gun port covers & frames to replace the 'orrible metal ones, as I did on Montañés. I have Panart's Victory to do & that's got metal covers & frames, but Victory has no externally defined frames. Are you doing a copper bottom?
Having seen the size of the battle flag from San Ildefonso [10m x 14.5m], I wonder how big Trini's was! OcCre's San Ildefonso @ 1:70 would need a flag 142mm x 207mm - methinks:oops:. Press on with the good work.

Stuart
 

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Stuart Little said:
Hey Alan, glad that gap at the bow has gone! Your choice of red is close to mine with 70-908 [carmine], but I've also got Wisconsin Central Railroad maroon, so I can foresee some tinting going on, unless I choose yellow/black. I will no doubt be making wooden gun port covers & frames to replace the 'orrible metal ones, as I did on Montañés. I have Panart's Victory to do & that's got metal covers & frames, but Victory has no externally defined frames. Are you doing a copper bottom?
Having seen the size of the battle flag from San Ildefonso [10m x 14.5m], I wonder how big Trini's was! OcCre's San Ildefonso @ 1:70 would need a flag 142mm x 207mm - methinks:oops:. Press on with the good work.

Stuart
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Hi Stuart

Bought the same Carmine also. Found it a bit pinkish.

Have not decided on how to finish the hull yet. Was thinking of doing a diorama. The hull under the waterline was not really seen at the time. I've seen a couple of model ships set in sea dioramas and they look really good. I'll plank her to just under the waterline and then decide what to do. One advantage, I'll have a lot of spare wood!

Alan
 
Alan Clark said:
Hi Stuart

Bought the same Carmine also. Found it a bit pinkish.

Have not decided on how to finish the hull yet. Was thinking of doing a diorama. The hull under the waterline was not really seen at the time. I've seen a couple of model ships set in sea dioramas and they look really good. I'll plank her to just under the waterline and then decide what to do. One advantage, I'll have a lot of spare wood!

Alan
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That's one of the good things with OcCre, they don't scrimp on wood, perhaps not so much on dowel, I had some oval ones for Monty which I replaced with walnut. I have a stack of both both planks left over & a load from Beagle. If it keeps mounting up I'll have enough for a scratch build!

Suart
 
Day 38 Part 2 (29th August 2021)

Finally finished the gun ports on the port side. Of course some minor adjustments will be done when I add the wales and I need to clean them up and repaint the black interior.

I'm not joking .... I dreamt about cutting gun ports last night. Two were not lined up and I was spending loads of time trying to get them right. Even woke up and went back into the same dream.

Men in white coats will come for me later in the week as I told my Wendy!

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