HMS Jalouse - Caldercraft by Ted

[Ted Robinson]

Thanks Ted, actually I finished that ship in April of 2021. At the bottom of this post and all my post you can click on the links in blue to see my build portfolio.

Thank you
I don't are anything at the bottom of the page

 

[Daniel20]

Thank you
I don't are anything at the bottom of the page

You don't see this in my signature area?

 

[Ted Robinson]

You don't see this in my signature area?

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Maybe because I'm using my cellphone.
I'll try my tablet
It works on my tablet

 

[Ted Robinson]

Success, it worked. Will clamp back up overnight to assure dryness.

 

[Ted Robinson]

The build begins. Glue up of keel to false keel

 

[AllanKP69]

Hi Ted,

You may find it worthwhile to print copies of the drawings of Jalouse 1809 as well as the contract to check for accuracy. The kit gives 18 guns which is nice but she was a 16 gun Cormorant-class ship-sloop so maybe suspect as to what they provide. I realize there were 18 gun ports.

I can send email the contract if you wish to have it as a back up and the drawings can be found on the Wiki Commons website. These are high res drawings of the low resolution plans at RMG Collections. RMG describes her as Jalouse (1809), a 16-gun Ship Sloop with quarterdeck and forecastle, to be built at Plymouth Dockyard.

Allan

 

[Ted Robinson]

Hi Ted,

You may find it worthwhile to print copies of the drawings of Jalouse 1809 as well as the contract to check for accuracy. The kit gives 18 guns which is nice but she was a 16 gun Cormorant-class ship-sloop so maybe suspect as to what they provide. I realize there were 18 gun ports.

I can send email the contract if you wish to have it as a back up and the drawings can be found on the Wiki Commons website. These are high res drawings of the low resolution plans at RMG Collections. RMG describes her as Jalouse (1809), a 16-gun Ship Sloop with quarterdeck and forecastle, to be built at Plymouth Dockyard.

Allan

Thank you Allan. I'll pm my email

 

[Ted Robinson]

Bulkheads dry fitted. The parts are really tight.
The build to this point is easy.

 

[Ted Robinson]

This going together better and more square than any of my previous models.
So far absolutely square.

 

[AllanKP69]

Hi Ted,
You might want to check the contract that you have for the moulded dimension of the top timbers on page 4. The photo above looks extremely thick, but it may be the photo. At 1:64 those in the wake of the timberheads at the forecastle are only 3" thick (1.2mm) and at the timberheads 4" (1.6mm) If left too thick, after adding the planking the cap rail will be much too wide in order to cover everything. It is delicate work, but then again so are most of the things in our hobby.
Allan

 

[Ted Robinson]

Hi Ted,
You might want to check the contract that you have for the moulded dimension of the top timbers on page 4. The photo above looks extremely thick, but it may be the photo. At 1:64 those in the wake of the timberheads at the forecastle are only 3" thick (1.2mm) and at the timberheads 4" (1.6mm) If left too thick, after adding the planking the cap rail will be much too wide in order to cover everything. It is delicate work, but then again so are most of the things in our hobby.
Allan

Thanks

 

[Ted Robinson]

Bulkheads glued and false deck laid out

 

[Ted Robinson]

Hull framing is complete

 

[Ted Robinson]

False deck secured.
I'm really enjoying this kit
Everything fits but iss tight and the slots or openings need to be filed for final fitting.
I guess that is ideal as it.keeps everything tight

 

[AllanKP69]

You probably already know this, but when it comes time to make the gratings, be sure to make them first so there are no open holes on the border, then make the head ledges and coamings to fit tight against the grating. If this sound confusing let me know and I can post drawings and photos.
Loving your build so far
Allan

 

[Ted Robinson]

You probably already know this, but when it comes time to make the gratings, be sure to make them first so there are no open holes on the border, then make the head ledges and coamings to fit tight against the grating. If this sound confusing let me know and I can post drawings and photos.
Loving your build so far
Allan

Thanks Allan,
I've never made gratings before but have watched John Aliprantis on YouTube.
Every kit offers something new to learn.
I appreciate your following this build as I'm rather inexperienced. This is my second real build
Happy modeling

 

[Ted Robinson]

I'm waiting for the false deck glue to cure before sanding the edges and sanding the bulkheads.
Looking ahead I don't know how to make the gun carriages.
The plan shows the axles as square as are the finished openings in the wheels
The wheels provided have a hole in the center.
Should I try to round off the axle ends.
I can't even conceive how I would go about cutting a square hole in these small fragile wheels.

 

[AllanKP69]

PLEASE PLEASE do not cut square holes in the trucks. There have been a number of posts here at SoS about an easy way to round the axles with a home made axle cutter. The drawing with a square axle is pure fantasy. You might take a look at post #36 at this link: https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/...d-48-1695-1-64-scale.15460/page-2#post-420156
You can make these using appropriate sized tubing so no need for a lathe or such. There was a great thread by Jimsky https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/aftermarket-naval-guns-parts-to-upscale-part-2-3.13209/ as well on making an axle cutter from tubing with hand tools. The OD of the rounded part of the axle is about the same dimension as the thickness of the carriage brackets Looking at the drawing from the kit that you posted the cannon looks more like a Borgard pattern gun (1716-1724) than a Blomefield which would be appropriate for Jalouse. The Blomefields (circa 1790-1835) had no chase astragal on the barrel. See pic of a Blomefield below:
If you are happy with the kit guns, go for it. If you would rather something like the pic, I would be happy to send you STL drawings to have them 3D printed with the ring and cypher included.

Sorry if some of the terms are not clear. The following drawing of an Armstrong pattern gun and carriage explains better than words. This is the wrong pattern for Jalouse but I hope you find the names of the parts helpful.

I hope you find the above useful or at least interesting.
Allan

 

[dockattner]

PLEASE PLEASE do not cut square holes in the trucks.

Hey Ted, don't overthink this ship modeling project. You know that wheels don't turn on square axles so don't fall for lousy instructions! If you can complete the plank-on-frame Bluenose you are going to conquer this current project! You've got this!

 

[Ted Robinson]

Hi Ted,

You may find it worthwhile to print copies of the drawings of Jalouse 1809 as well as the contract to check for accuracy. The kit gives 18 guns which is nice but she was a 16 gun Cormorant-class ship-sloop so maybe suspect as to what they provide. I realize there were 18 gun ports.

I can send email the contract if you wish to have it as a back up and the drawings can be found on the Wiki Commons website. These are high res drawings of the low resolution plans at ENG Collections. RMG describes her as Jalouse (1809), a 16-gun Ship Sloop with quarterdeck and forecastle, to be built at Plymouth Dockyard.

Allan

I'm having trouble finding any drawings other than I've profile

Hey Ted, don't overthink this ship modeling project. You know that wheels don't turn on square axles so don't fall for lousy instructions! If you can complete the plank-on-frame Bluenose you are going to conquer this current project! You've got this!

Thanks, I figured it out. I'm just rounding off the axels. I'll include a photo as soon as I finish the initial sanding.