Excellent Uwe! I actually have no idea what sits next to the platform right now but I will certainly see if I can figure it out. I am very grateful that you pointed out this potential error!
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These are incredibly generous words Michael. But the longer you hang around the forum and the more builds you read the more you will agree that I am still among the mortals (though my wife does assure me that I am very special - I assume she means in a good way
).There are builders who follow and post on this Kingfisher log whose work I deeply respect and hope to one day emulate. And then there are those ten-year builds that can only be respected and honored - but never replicated. Indeed, I can show you are least one Kingfisher build that makes my work look like the dog's breakfast
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Luckily I know we share the same humorWHAT!? Now even you have turned on me Maarten?
I know I'm not Doc, but I picked up one of the Arrowmax drills available at Amazon and it is wonderful. Its very easy to hold and doesn't turn too fast. Now I see they even have it in a 4 speed.
Here is a link to what I purchased:
Arrowmax drill
I also picked up the additional drill bits available for it. It is USB rechargeable.
@Uwek
Thanks, again, for pointing out this mistake. As you have wisely discerned, I have not correctly placed the decking. It actually should be like this:
The above drawing is found in my reference book but several pages after the information about the aft platform. I've read the entire book several times but failed to put the pieces together.
I have also learned that there will not be a wall at the edge of this platform (your blue arrow). Here is a build of another swan class ship showing this section completed:
The platform is truly only a platform.
Of course the follow-up question is: is it worth correcting my planking?
Looks wonderful to me Paul. I would leave it be.
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And there we have it! Good question, Maarten.Ps can it open?
Hi Paul,
Is this drawing in the book based on wreck findings or original drawings? If not who can tell 100% that the book drawing is correct. If the planks have enough support on the outer edge beam I would leave it as is.
Very good that you clarified the situation - sometimes it is good and necessary to re-read and check twice
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Uwe is right. The planking is not correct. The planks have to end on the beam. If you have a closer look yo see, that they end for the beam.
If you like to correct it, do it. The question is whar can you see on the finished model And will you realize the wrong planking.
If you like to correct it, do it. The question is whar can you see on the finished model And will you realize the wrong planking.
Hello Paul, your lower deck, walls, hatches, and doors all look darn near perfect to me. Everything you build for show on this forum is esthetically very pleasing weather or not it is historically correct or may not represent exact functionality as in working hinges. Keep those progress photos coming, they are serious eye candy!
An Excursus:
While it doesn't seem like too many people are using a drawplate to make treenails, I'll still post this little bit of advice...
I tried out a bunch of drawplates while doing my pre-build research and one and only one actually worked: the Jim Byrnes drawplate from Model Machines (RIP Jim...). When I last checked they still have this for sale on the website.
I made a rather large supply of treenails out of boxwood and black hornbeam over the summer while on family vacation. Of course I ran out and needed to make some more this winter. But when I went back to do that I couldn't go from hole 28 to hole 26. That is normally an area of difficulty because Jim skipped size 27 and the stock is quite thin at this point. I simply could not pull the strip through hole 26 without it binding up and snapping. Difference in humidity? A bad batch of boxwood? Was my wife to blame (that's a well-worn path I walk in my life)?
Frustrated (a massive understatement) I pulled out my spare drawplate (after I remembered I had a spare) and it worked perfectly!
So, here is the part I wanted to share... I had gotten into the habit (when a strip snapped off in hole 26) of reaming out the wood left behind in the hole with a small drill bit. I can now see that I had abraded the edge of the hole and even that little bit of damage made the drawplate unusable. Lesson learned. And now you know not to do the same.
While it doesn't seem like too many people are using a drawplate to make treenails, I'll still post this little bit of advice...
I tried out a bunch of drawplates while doing my pre-build research and one and only one actually worked: the Jim Byrnes drawplate from Model Machines (RIP Jim...). When I last checked they still have this for sale on the website.
I made a rather large supply of treenails out of boxwood and black hornbeam over the summer while on family vacation. Of course I ran out and needed to make some more this winter. But when I went back to do that I couldn't go from hole 28 to hole 26. That is normally an area of difficulty because Jim skipped size 27 and the stock is quite thin at this point. I simply could not pull the strip through hole 26 without it binding up and snapping. Difference in humidity? A bad batch of boxwood? Was my wife to blame (that's a well-worn path I walk in my life
)?Frustrated (a massive understatement) I pulled out my spare drawplate (after I remembered I had a spare) and it worked perfectly!
So, here is the part I wanted to share... I had gotten into the habit (when a strip snapped off in hole 26) of reaming out the wood left behind in the hole with a small drill bit. I can now see that I had abraded the edge of the hole and even that little bit of damage made the drawplate unusable. Lesson learned. And now you know not to do the same.
Once again, my thanks to @Uwek for questioning how I had planked the aft platform. While I am not against using some artistic license on this build, once I realized how it SHOULD look I decided to honor my forum friend by making the simple (only took an hour or so) correction.
Here is the before, followed by the after:
Now that I am looking at this picture, I think I'll add more trenails on that new bit. Thanks Uwe (and many others who have helped elsewhere) for keeping me on track. I am always open to your observations and corrections!
Here is the before, followed by the after:
Now that I am looking at this picture, I think I'll add more trenails on that new bit. Thanks Uwe (and many others who have helped elsewhere) for keeping me on track. I am always open to your observations and corrections!
There was one more 'bottom of the hold' structure that I needed to complete before turning my attention to the lower deck beams (and everything associated with them): the well house / shot locker. Rather than bore you with words, here is the progression over several work sessions...
Preparing to make some walls:
Athwartships elements completed:
Next day:
And now nearly completed:
And finally on the ship (everything needs final fitting):
I left this side open in the hopes that some the details will be visible:
I can't decide whether to include nails / fasteners or not. Whatever I do here I'll need to continue on future parts of the build-out, so I need to think this through some more (learned my lesson from starting treenails). Thanks for visiting! I love following your work!
Preparing to make some walls:
Athwartships elements completed:
Next day:
And now nearly completed:
And finally on the ship (everything needs final fitting):
I left this side open in the hopes that some the details will be visible:
I can't decide whether to include nails / fasteners or not. Whatever I do here I'll need to continue on future parts of the build-out, so I need to think this through some more (learned my lesson from starting treenails
). Thanks for visiting! I love following your work!
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I envy your tenacity. Making 1000's of treenails is no joke. Not to say that I have done it before, which I haven't.
Paul, can I ask are you putting any material or finish on the edge of the planks to create the black edge definition?
Also, I am curious to know if and how to effectively remove the pencil markings you make to assist with the build.
I will not make any comments about how great this all looks, as it is obvious.
Thanks Paul.
michael
Hello Michael. On the holly and boxwood hull planks I simply used a soft lead/graphite pencil (black tissue paper on the heavy centerline timbers). As for the hull markings - I sanded the #$%^& out of it
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Doc, I like the look of your blue headed pins. Not for their look but they appear to have a narrow diameter shaft, and a capacious gripable head.Here is where we were on the aft platform before my digression into figuring out how to cut pockets for carlings and ledges...
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The opening at the bottom of the picture is a scuttle that leads to a fish hold (or on some later ships a spirit room). I wanted to represent half of the hatch leading to that space. First, I needed to make a faux hinge by soldering a bit of brass wire to a PE hinge sourced from my Vasa kit.
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Trimmed up, burnished, and placed on the half-hatch:
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Not great, but good enough for something you won't be able to see
And while I was burnishing something I added some brass sheaves (these were purchased but had to be sanded down to fit the 1 mm slot in the fixed block):
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Here is the final appearance of the aft platform:
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There should be some bulkheads/dividing walls under the platform but I'm leaving them off.
I had to take several shots are the forward platform(s). I struggled here. The geometry of the platforms and the geometry of the interior hull would not cooperate and there were some wasted hours. In the midst of my struggles I failed to take progress photos, but here is the final result:
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Nothing has been fixed in place so there are some minor alignment issues. There are things above these platforms that need to align with the platforms, so I'll postpone glueing anything down for a few months...
Thanks for the visit!
Can you share the purchasing source?