LE ROCHEFORT - Harbour yacht from 1787 1:36 by Tobias (Monograph by ANCRE)

Correct Toni, the starboard side will be closed. How are you getting on with Le Rochefort?
I've been building planes for a bit. I model both balsa free flight planes and ships. The flying season starts very soon so have to get ready. On Rochefort I'm confused about the frame spacers, the floor timber chocks. Do they need to be the full depth of the frames ? in that case each would be a different size as the all frames are not the same depth.
 
Hallo all,

Last week I was for some days on a business trip in Bavaria and had the chance to visit our friend @Tobias at home.
Many thanks for the hospitality and the visit in your workshop - and I can confirm, that his models are looking really as good as in his building logs

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His La Palme in his hands - on the first photo you can also see on the desk his Le Coureur

POF La Palme (L'Amarante) Corvette 1744 1:36 (Ancre Monograph) by Tobias

Hello, everyone. Here I would like to introduce you to my second project, I am trying to build the La Palme, a sister ship of the L' Amarante. I hope that I get a lot of input from you to identify any errors and to fix them. Le Coureur will continue to be built whenever I need a change. Now...
shipsofscale.com

and also the Le Rochefort group build model stands close to the Coureur
 
Hallo all,

Last week I was for some days on a business trip in Bavaria and had the chance to visit our friend @Tobias at home.
Many thanks for the hospitality and the visit in your workshop - and I can confirm, that his models are looking really as good as in his building logs

IMG_2461.jpg



IMG_2463.jpg



His La Palme in his hands - on the first photo you can also see on the desk his Le Coureur

POF La Palme (L'Amarante) Corvette 1744 1:36 (Ancre Monograph) by Tobias

Hello, everyone. Here I would like to introduce you to my second project, I am trying to build the La Palme, a sister ship of the L' Amarante. I hope that I get a lot of input from you to identify any errors and to fix them. Le Coureur will continue to be built whenever I need a change. Now...
shipsofscale.com

and also the Le Rochefort group build model stands close to the Coureur
Hello all,

it was nice to see Uwe again after almost a year and I was very happy to see him.
Thanks Uwe for sharing the pictures, so considered La Palme is quite large. :cool:

In the following days the hull will be sanded from the outside, so no new pictures for now.
I think I will make during the grinding of La Palme from time to time one or the other frame and keep you up to date.
Thanks again to everyone for liking and commenting.
See you soon.
 
I've been building planes for a bit. I model both balsa free flight planes and ships. The flying season starts very soon so have to get ready. On Rochefort I'm confused about the frame spacers, the floor timber chocks. Do they need to be the full depth of the frames ? in that case each would be a different size as the all frames are not the same depth.
Hello Toni you see that correctly, the height of the bottom wedges changes, see picture, they fill the space between keel and keelson.
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Tobias, not the height that they are in the frames. T he actual size of the blocks. Should they be equal to the size of the frames in height ? ?
 
Tobias, not the height that they are in the frames. T he actual size of the blocks. Should they be equal to the size of the frames in height ? ?
Hello Toni here a picture of GD how the block must look.
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The width is that of the keel in our case 6.75mm

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Image Source: Nickname No Idea, Mark (Le Rochefort)

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I made up a few of these so I could cut the spacers from it. See how it’s not the same size as the frame ? If this is the case then every one will have to be made individually because each frame is different.

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Link attached Report No. 201
You can see it one page before in my build report

On plan 11 you can also clearly see the individual positions (Report199)

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I think were losing in translation my thoughts. Ok thanks, I'll make them full size.
Tony, I think you could make them from one piece if you made it oversize and when installing align the bottom (curved portion) with the outer deck side of the frame and then sand/file/cut the inner to align with the inside of the hull.
i’ll add a photo later if my words don’t make sense…
 
Yes I understand. The thing is they’re supposed to have a round cut out on the hull plank side to allow water to drain to the keel. I may not do that as I’ve seen other builders haven’t either. Thanks
 
Yes I understand. The thing is they’re supposed to have a round cut out on the hull plank side to allow water to drain to the keel. I may not do that as I’ve seen other builders haven’t either. Thanks
Hi Toni, as far as I can remember you plan to plan everything or am I wrong. If that's the case, you can also leave them out or put no water drain into them. I will only install these blocks after grinding/scratching and then working on them with the round file.
 
Hi Toni, as far as I can remember you plan to plan everything or am I wrong. If that's the case, you can also leave them out or put no water drain into them. I will only install these blocks after grinding/scratching and then working on them with the round file.
Ok yes. I wasn’t sure when to do them either, I’ll make new ones so they’re the proper size. I see what you mean it’s just easier to file the water drain later on. Thanks !
 
I was going to make them in a strip 3.2mm wide (assuming 3mm between frames and 1mm dado in the side of each frame) 10cm long with a height greater than the widest frame. Route a 3mm cove in the strip using the milling machine and then slice them to the appropriate length.
Am I over thinking again?
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I was going to make them in a strip 3.2mm wide (assuming 3mm between frames and 1mm dado in the side of each frame) 10cm long with a height greater than the widest frame. Route a 3mm cove in the strip using the milling machine and then slice them to the appropriate length.
Am I over thinking again?
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Hello Oliver here the measurement I use. I will make all blocks individually so that they fit 100%
 
A small addition:
I noticed that these blocks do not fit in the 90 degree angle, why this is so I can not explain, maybe it is due to the curvature of the frames or my milling does not fit. I have revised the drawing again.
This is the top view:
Red the block is filed or chamfered.
Green the actual block with 90 degree angle
Blue are e.g. formers 15 and 16
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Hello Tobias,

Your build log is wonderful and will be very very helpful for my own build.

May I go one step back and ask you something about building the frames?
I checked your posts about La Palme and about Le Rochefort and something is still unclear for me.
I understand how you are making the two halves of each frame, but how do you align them afterwards that front and back side do fit together?

And one more question: Do you use wood which has already the final thickness or do you use wood which is slightly thicker and sand it to the final dimension after gluing the frames together?
 
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