USS Constitution by Model Shipways 1:76 scale

Wow. This beast is turning out to be more complicated than I thought it would be. A challenge! One question that I have is whether the supplied lumber is adequate to complete the model?
 
Dear Tony,

I would like to receive your opinion...(and everybody off course... :) ):
for installation between Bulkheads K-R (because Bulkhead extension are 1/16"
1 - installation of the main rail eg strip of 1/16 x 5/64 at 7/16" above planksheer(s). strip bleu colour
2 - Gluing a plywood piece of 1/16" thick which fit perfectly between bulkhead extension and main rail becoming total width of 1/8" (without the outside strip)

for the parts between E-K other plywood thickness (I have several sizes which fit between) and the same for A-E

Advantages:
-Plywood easy to install and can easily being fit to the right sizes...
-Almost no sanding.....
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HMSFly said:
Dear Tony,

I would like to receive your opinion...(and everybody off course... :) ):
for installation between Bulkheads K-R (because Bulkhead extension are 1/16"
1 - installation of the main rail eg strip of 1/16 x 5/64 at 7/16" above planksheer(s). strip bleu colour
2 - Gluing a plywood piece of 1/16" thick which fit perfectly between bulkhead extension and main rail becoming total width of 1/8" (without the outside strip)

for the parts between E-K other plywood thickness (I have several sizes which fit between) and the same for A-E

Advantages:
-Plywood easy to install and can easily being fit to the right sizes...
-Almost no sanding.....
-
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Hi Marc & everyone else looking in.

We look after our grandkids on Wednesdays and Thursdays so not much gets done in the shipyard. The bulkhead extensions are finished now, so progress can continue.

Marc in answer to your questions.
1 As far as I can see the best way to install these strips is to do them after the planking has been installed so there is no issue with gaps or cutting down planks.
2 The plywood inserts is an interesting idea I think if I was doing it would take me longer to do but if my current plan fails it could be a good plan B. It would be great if modelshipways included a one-piece precut part like a lot of other manufacturers.

My plan at the moment is to plank one side of the extensions then add the frames. Next cut the planks for the ports and plank the other side. Often my plans change as I go so we'll see what happens.

Tony
 
Jack Sparrow said:
Wow. This beast is turning out to be more complicated than I thought it would be. A challenge! One question that I have is whether the supplied lumber is adequate to complete the model?
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Hi Jack
A big problem is the drawings show timber thickness but not the width, I'm forever wondering if I'm using the right stock. It's impossible to know at this stage if there is enough timber other than the material list checked out OK. I'll keep you posted.
Tony
 
Tony H said:
Hi Jack
A big problem is the drawings show timber thickness but not the width, I'm forever wondering if I'm using the right stock. It's impossible to know at this stage if there is enough timber other than the material list checked out OK. I'll keep you posted.
Tony
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As a result of this discussion, I decided to purchase the tutorial by Bob Hunt. It appears to mention what lumber is required. I am hoping this will address that issue. Worst case scenario I guess I would need to buy more lumber.
 
Hello Tony,

I'm implementing your plan B... :)

Peace of cake.... I can only recommend to use plywood...
I'm using a strip as reference in order to position the plywood strips in the correct angle (eg these of the Bulkhead extensions).
I also use plywood of two different thicknesses: eg 1/16" and 3/32 which fir perfectly between the Bulkheads....
The plywood has being cut on a height of 7/16"....the height of the gunports or distance between planksheer (glued on top of the waterway) and bottom of main rail...
Easy.

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Jack Sparrow said:
As a result of this discussion, I decided to purchase the tutorial by Bob Hunt. It appears to mention what lumber is required. I am hoping this will address that issue. Worst case scenario I guess I would need to buy more lumber.
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I have seen a few logs with builders using this tutorial, I would be interested to have your opinion.
Tony
 
My neighbor built this kit. He and I frequently discussed the merits of various manufacturers, but he never mentioned having to buy additional material. I - for one - appreciate when manufacturers include more material than is needed. The addition of a few extra planks makes a big difference in my satisfaction with a build and my overall impression of the quality of a kit (and manufacturer).
 
HMSFly said:
Hello Tony,

I'm implementing your plan B... :)

Peace of cake.... I can only recommend to use plywood...
I'm using a strip as reference in order to position the plywood strips in the correct angle (eg these of the Bulkhead extensions).
I also use plywood of two different thicknesses: eg 1/16" and 3/32 which fir perfectly between the Bulkheads....
The plywood has being cut on a height of 7/16"....the height of the gunports or distance between planksheer (glued on top of the waterway) and bottom of main rail...
Easy.

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Looks good I wish I could build as quickly as you do.
Having just moved interstate I have not found a good hobby shop or anywhere I can get suitable materials from (with timber I like to see what I'm buying. I'm often disappointed with some of the stuff I get online) so I'll try to use the materials that are included in the kit.
It's going to be very interesting and helpful to others to see how these methods progress.
Tony
 
Tony H said:
Looks good I wish I could build as quickly as you do.
Having just moved interstate I have not found a good hobby shop or anywhere I can get suitable materials from (with timber I like to see what I'm buying. I'm often disappointed with some of the stuff I get online) so I'll try to use the materials that are included in the kit.
It's going to be very interesting and helpful to others to see how these methods progress.
Tony
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I am in the same boat as you. I have to get everything online. It is a hit and miss sometimes, but usually it works out ok. It's just the shipping costs that are outrageous.
 
Stevinne said:
My neighbor built this kit. He and I frequently discussed the merits of various manufacturers, but he never mentioned having to buy additional material. I - for one - appreciate when manufacturers include more material than is needed. The addition of a few extra planks makes a big difference in my satisfaction with a build and my overall impression of the quality of a kit (and manufacturer).
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There's plenty of timber included with this kit.
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Modelexpo has a good reputation for replacing/supplying additional parts so I can't see why there would be a shortage of material. There's suggestions on the drawings for a bit of bashing that would require additional parts.
It's only when the model is complete you can make a proper judgement.
Tony
 
Tony H said:
There's plenty of timber included with this kit.
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Modelexpo has a good reputation for replacing/supplying additional parts so I can't see why there would be a shortage of material. There's suggestions on the drawings for a bit of bashing that would require additional parts.
It's only when the model is complete you can make a proper judgement.
Tony
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i like your setup. everything has it's own place.
 
Tony H said:
I have seen a few logs with builders using this tutorial, I would be interested to have your opinion.
Tony
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IMO, I would say it's well worth the cost. I find the instructions that come with the kit lacking in detail and the plans a little confusing. The tutorial seems to fill this gap. He presents things in step by step fashion and describes what lumber is required in detail. I can't see myself building this ship without the tutorial because I am not really a scratch builder. More comments to follow when I start building the ship which is several months down the road.
 
Tony H said:
There's plenty of timber included with this kit.
View attachment 389065
Modelexpo has a good reputation for replacing/supplying additional parts so I can't see why there would be a shortage of material. There's suggestions on the drawings for a bit of bashing that would require additional parts.
It's only when the model is complete you can make a proper judgement.
Tony
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Nice lumber rack. I have thought about doing something similar with a cardboard box. Can you stand it on end to same bench space?
 
May I come back to the theme of wood supplied with the kit?

As I said, it is still too early to judge the amount of wood supplied.
And not meant negatively at all...
I think the kit is a real challenge...perfect: what I was looking for.
And as Tony put it perfectly, the plans tell you what to do, not how to do it.

Anyway I have already bought a quantity of wood:
- strips /8 x 1/8 inch - l=40": I use these as reference strip placed over the length of the hull to be able to place nicely connecting strips later.
- strips of 1/8 thick and 7/16 wide, length 40" : I needed these to be able to place the dummy gunports without having to fiddle too much.
and few others...

I like the creativity that this kit allows, and I find this platform the perfect conversation partners to ask for advice, learn and get ideas.


PS
I'm already toying with the idea of providing the deck with a thin sheet of plywood and covering it with high quality wood such as Tanganyika strips... But first I'll find out what the deck is actually made of...
 
HMSFly said:
May I come back to the theme of wood supplied with the kit?

As I said, it is still too early to judge the amount of wood supplied.
And not meant negatively at all...
I think the kit is a real challenge...perfect: what I was looking for.
And as Tony put it perfectly, the plans tell you what to do, not how to do it.

Anyway I have already bought a quantity of wood:
- strips /8 x 1/8 inch - l=40": I use these as reference strip placed over the length of the hull to be able to place nicely connecting strips later.
- strips of 1/8 thick and 7/16 wide, length 40" : I needed these to be able to place the dummy gunports without having to fiddle too much.
and few others...

I like the creativity that this kit allows, and I find this platform the perfect conversation partners to ask for advice, learn and get ideas.


PS
I'm already toying with the idea of providing the deck with a thin sheet of plywood and covering it with high quality wood such as Tanganyika strips... But first I'll find out what the deck is actually made of...
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Hi Marc
There's certainly a lot room to be creative I really admire the builders who add the lower gundeck, it's' above my skill level.

The deck uses 1/8*1/16 timber I'm looking forward to seeing how you do your deck. This is my first ship that has a single planked hull and a deck mounted directly on the bulkheads, I'm interested to see how it works out.

I placed the first pair of planks today I'll post some photos when there's more to see.
Tony
 
When I did the Brig Syren, the deck was also planked directly on the bulkheads. I put blocks in between the bulkheads as per the instructions. That may be a good idea for the Constitution as well, assuming you don't want a gun deck.
 
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