Hi Rich,
See my text in my post 233 for the same conclusion about the place of the pumps by the BN-II.
Regards, Peter
Last edited:
YUANQING BLUENOSE - Peter Voogt [COMPLETED BUILD]
- Thread starter Peter Voogt
- Start date
- Watchers 70
See my text in my post 233 for the same conclusion about the place of the pumps by the BN-II.
Regards, Peter
Based on the demo model, the 4 wells made.
In 3 steps:
-cut out and fitted with the round recess and already equipped the inside with rivets, where the covers are fitted behind;
-folded in steps on the folding lines;
-the covers glued on the backside.
Inserted from the bottom, on either side of frame 31, placed between the frames:
Seen from above:
When the frames are glued to the keel, the wells are glued to the frames.
In the middle comes the keelson. The spaces between the keelson and the wells, will be filled on both sides with the sister keelsons and waterways.
Up the the last series of frames.
Regards, Peter
In 3 steps:
-cut out and fitted with the round recess and already equipped the inside with rivets, where the covers are fitted behind;
-folded in steps on the folding lines;
-the covers glued on the backside.
Inserted from the bottom, on either side of frame 31, placed between the frames:
Seen from above:
When the frames are glued to the keel, the wells are glued to the frames.
In the middle comes the keelson. The spaces between the keelson and the wells, will be filled on both sides with the sister keelsons and waterways.
Up the the last series of frames.
Regards, Peter
From my perspective I really question if they would weaken a frame in this manner and invite rot to boot with the concentration of bilge water within the frame/well????? I am still of the opinion that the wells were BETWEEN the frames where you placed your collection wells and the pump shaft descended into that well and not into the frame. The kit is what it is though and not building it I am not sure how you would relocate the pumps on the deck.. Just my thoughts. Rich
You sir, will have water on tap!
I will just drill a hole thru the bottom of my frame and hull and my crew gets saltwater! Just kidding!!!
Ok then Rich: also from my side for the 3rd time: yes, I know that in the BN-II the pumps were between 2 frames!!
But YQ designed it this way with there BN. With this position of the pumps on the frame and through the beams and the deck.
I could move them between the frames, but then I also have to adjust the rest, like the position between the beams and the transit through the deck. And I don't like it now to do.
So please, make your point one time. After a 2nd or 3th time, I got red spots in my neck. And then consider to stop with my build-log.
For all the others: thanks for the likes and reply's.
Regards, Peter
And about this:
And no rot from the inside. There the brass tubes are soldered. Inside? Yes, a Dutch invention from the 16th century. Rolled out over the world by Tsaar Peter the Great.
Only that last line is my Artistic License.
Regards, Petert
No, they strengthen the frame. They are like big treenails of brass.
No, all the tubes are caulked on the outside.
And no rot from the inside. There the brass tubes are soldered. Inside? Yes, a Dutch invention from the 16th century. Rolled out over the world by Tsaar Peter the Great.
Only that last line is my Artistic License.
Regards, Petert
Last edited:
I apologize for my old age redundancy. Bad habit.Ok then Rich: also from my side for the 3rd time: yes, I know that in the BN-II the pumps were between 2 frames!!
But YQ designed it this way with there BN. With this position of the pumps on the frame and through the beams and the deck.
I could move them between the frames, but then I also have to adjust the rest, like the position between the beams and the transit through the deck. And I don't like it now to do.
So please, make your point one time. After a 2nd or 3th time, I got red spots in my neck. And then consider to stop with my build-log.
For all the others: thanks for the likes and reply's.
Regards, Peter
Rich
Ok Rich, accepted!
Regards, Peter
All this discussion over historical accuracy reminds me of what I said in my build log. I build for the enjoyment of modeling ships. Therefore it will be displayed at home and not in a museum. And because I purchased the kit with my money, I am free to build it anyway I chose, with as much artistic license as I want to add.
The problem arises when you do a build log... that is viewed by many purist who agonize over every tiny detail, and assume you do too because you are here showing your work.
It has apparently not been realized by some, that not everyone decides to treat a ship build as a history project where you buy a book about the ship you are building and refer to many other resources to determine how every part of the ship was built and rigged.
Most people are ignorant of these tiny details, except those who have vast knowledge of ships, and would not appreciate if they are on the model. So if you add these details, you will do it for yourself mostly. I chose to just enjoy the build and not put too much pressure on myself to get every little detail right or perfect.
In conclusion...it’s acceptable for others to point out if you have done something that is not accurate or correct, after that it’s up to you whether you do something about it.
The problem arises when you do a build log... that is viewed by many purist who agonize over every tiny detail, and assume you do too because you are here showing your work.
It has apparently not been realized by some, that not everyone decides to treat a ship build as a history project where you buy a book about the ship you are building and refer to many other resources to determine how every part of the ship was built and rigged.
Most people are ignorant of these tiny details, except those who have vast knowledge of ships, and would not appreciate if they are on the model. So if you add these details, you will do it for yourself mostly. I chose to just enjoy the build and not put too much pressure on myself to get every little detail right or perfect.
In conclusion...it’s acceptable for others to point out if you have done something that is not accurate or correct, after that it’s up to you whether you do something about it.
Last edited:
Well said. RichAll this discussion over historical accuracy reminds me of what I said in my build log. I build for the enjoyment of modeling ships. Therefore it will be displayed at home and not in a museum. And because I purchased the kit with my money, I am free to build it anyway I chose, with as much artistic license as I want to add.
The problem arises when you do a build log... that is viewed by many purist who agonize over every tiny detail, and assume you do too because you are here showing your work.
It has apparently not been realized by some, that not everyone decides to treat a ship build as a history project where you buy a book about the ship you are building and refer to many other resources to determine how every part of the ship was built and rigged.
Most people are ignorant of these tiny details, except those who have vast knowledge of ships, and would not appreciate if they are on the model. So if you add these details, you will do it for yourself mostly. I chose to just enjoy the build and not put too much pressure on myself to get every little detail right or perfect.
In conclusion...it’s acceptable for others to point out if you have done something that is not accurate or correct, after that it’s up to you whether you do something about it.
I am with you Dean , the build is for your own enjoymentAll this discussion over historical accuracy reminds me of what I said in my build log. I build for the enjoyment of modeling ships. Therefore it will be displayed at home and not in a museum. And because I purchased the kit with my money, I am free to build it anyway I chose, with as much artistic license as I want to add.
The problem arises when you do a build log... that is viewed by many purist who agonize over every tiny detail, and assume you do too because you are here showing your work.
It has apparently not been realized by some, that not everyone decides to treat a ship build as a history project where you buy a book about the ship you are building and refer to many other resources to determine how every part of the ship was built and rigged.
Most people are ignorant of these tiny details, except those who have vast knowledge of ships, and would not appreciate if they are on the model. So if you add these details, you will do it for yourself mostly. I chose to just enjoy the build and not put too much pressure on myself to get every little detail right or perfect.
In conclusion...it’s acceptable for others to point out if you have done something that is not accurate or correct, after that it’s up to you whether you do something about it.
After a small week of cutting, filing, sanding and polishing, finally finish the 49 main frames:
There are now some small differences in the spacing between the frames, mainly visible on the waterline. The temporary spacers will adjust them as soon as the frames are glued together.
Some playing with the light:
And collected all the parts for the stern:
According to the manual, I should now attach the parts #19/#65 to the keel. I use a slightly different approach.
Of course assembling the half frames.
I will take some pictures from my steps. It comes down to some parts glueing and further dry fit, where I can grab, fit and view everything around.
Regards, Peter
There are now some small differences in the spacing between the frames, mainly visible on the waterline. The temporary spacers will adjust them as soon as the frames are glued together.
Some playing with the light:
And collected all the parts for the stern:
According to the manual, I should now attach the parts #19/#65 to the keel. I use a slightly different approach.
Of course assembling the half frames.
I will take some pictures from my steps. It comes down to some parts glueing and further dry fit, where I can grab, fit and view everything around.
Regards, Peter
Last edited:
...cathedral photo please, it is a tradition!
No ........ A Momentary Lapse of Reason...cathedral photo please, it is a tradition!
It comes when the frames are glued and final adjusted. With organ music and light effects.
I still think it is 'too irregular' in terms of image.
Regards, Peter
Last edited:
Peter, Very nice assembly of frames. RichNo ........ A Momentary Lapse of Reason
It comes when the frames are glued and final adjusted. With organ music and light effects.
I still think it is 'too irregular' in terms of image.
Regards, Peter
Looking great Peter! You are almost ready to glue into the jig and start internal framework!
A present for you my friend, as I can see you adding this! The motor that was used on the windlass!
It's too late for me to add this detail, but it would have been fun to scratch build.
The motor that was used on the windlass!It's too late for me to add this detail, but it would have been fun to scratch build.
Last edited:
Ca Chug. . . Ca Chug. . . Ca Chug, Chud, Chug . . . Po;p!!! Roar!!!!!!! Sputter. . . " "*** forgot to fill her up!"A present for you my friend, as I can see you adding this!
It's too late for me to add this detail, but it would have been fun to scratch build.
View attachment 231530
Rich
Peter will know how to take care of this. RichCa Chug. . . Ca Chug. . . Ca Chug, Chud, Chug . . . Po;p!!! Roar!!!!!!! Sputter. . . " "*** forgot to fill her up!"