Very nicely done and we can assume the same in the future. RIch (PT-2)Thanxs, Paul. Sometimes I surprise myself too .....
Regards, Peter
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Yes, Rich. I will do my best to continue.
Regards, Peter
New insights:
Now that I'm working out the Cabin and seeing more and more details, I first have to do something in between.
In the Saga drawing you could see that towards the back, the space is open and the floor continues.
You can also see a part of the tube through which the rudder runs. That tube is logical, otherwise the splashing water or if the boat takes deep water at the rear, this water can run through the hole in the hull on the low deck.
First made some extra floor beams to extend the spacer floor. From the waste of the under floorbeam sheets:
Can't see very well, but they have a bit of coverage.
The box made to the dimensions of the hole in the keel beam and frames:
The connection angle on the keel has been made to fit with the help of 2 fitting battens:
Installed the floor beams, the tube and the planks:
Through the hole you look straight at the slanted toe at the end of the keel beam. That hazy dark block:
Then I can now start customizing the mold for the inner lower walls that run under the deck beams.
Regards, Peter
Now that I'm working out the Cabin and seeing more and more details, I first have to do something in between.
In the Saga drawing you could see that towards the back, the space is open and the floor continues.
You can also see a part of the tube through which the rudder runs. That tube is logical, otherwise the splashing water or if the boat takes deep water at the rear, this water can run through the hole in the hull on the low deck.
First made some extra floor beams to extend the spacer floor. From the waste of the under floorbeam sheets:
Can't see very well, but they have a bit of coverage.
The box made to the dimensions of the hole in the keel beam and frames:
The connection angle on the keel has been made to fit with the help of 2 fitting battens:
Installed the floor beams, the tube and the planks:
Through the hole you look straight at the slanted toe at the end of the keel beam. That hazy dark block:
Then I can now start customizing the mold for the inner lower walls that run under the deck beams.
Regards, Peter
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Soon a steering mechanism will be needed for the rudder to wheel connection.
Just, sit, relax, breath, take some coffee ........
Regards, Peter
Aha ..... Let me just this afternoon have the photos sorted. With sizes and angles of inclination.Soon a steering mechanism will be needed for the rudder to wheel connection.
Regards, Peter
Laying the floor for the Cabin:
Because I also make the Cabin half open, this floor is also half laid. There are 2 small strips under the centrally placed stove.
After some sketches a first attempt at how the layout can be:
To port:
2 bunks under the deck beams. So there is no need for a floor behind / under it. The floor of the bunks then extends to the hull. Under the beams towards the rear there will also be 1 bunk.
To starboard:
I'm not sure yet whether I'm going to make the CaptainsCabin against the back wall, in the drawing on the left, or against the partition wall with the FishHold. The Captain has his own bunk. Then there is one bunk in the open area too.
If the CaptainsCabin is against the wall of the FishHold, I do have a wall with 2 bunks, just like on the port side.
Without deck beams:
The openwork superstructure above the deck beams will have regular closed walls at the rear and the port side. With the stairs, door and sliding hatch.
The front wall, above the dividing wall with the FishHold, gets half the sloping nibble.
The starboard wall is completely open and reveals the frame of the wall.
If the CaptainsCabin is against the back wall, next to the stairs, I can also open it halfway there. Then that corresponds more with the theme of half openwork.
If it comes up against the front wall, which is open work there, then a half-open CaptainsCabin may stand out too much.
Puzzle some more.
Regards, Peter
Because I also make the Cabin half open, this floor is also half laid. There are 2 small strips under the centrally placed stove.
After some sketches a first attempt at how the layout can be:
To port:
2 bunks under the deck beams. So there is no need for a floor behind / under it. The floor of the bunks then extends to the hull. Under the beams towards the rear there will also be 1 bunk.
To starboard:
I'm not sure yet whether I'm going to make the CaptainsCabin against the back wall, in the drawing on the left, or against the partition wall with the FishHold. The Captain has his own bunk. Then there is one bunk in the open area too.
If the CaptainsCabin is against the wall of the FishHold, I do have a wall with 2 bunks, just like on the port side.
Without deck beams:
The openwork superstructure above the deck beams will have regular closed walls at the rear and the port side. With the stairs, door and sliding hatch.
The front wall, above the dividing wall with the FishHold, gets half the sloping nibble.
The starboard wall is completely open and reveals the frame of the wall.
If the CaptainsCabin is against the back wall, next to the stairs, I can also open it halfway there. Then that corresponds more with the theme of half openwork.
If it comes up against the front wall, which is open work there, then a half-open CaptainsCabin may stand out too much.
Puzzle some more.
Regards, Peter
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I would probably use the layout with the best ergonomic possibilities and use of space. That is most likely how it was designed.
First I will make a paper scale model of the layout with the different parts. To visualize the differences.I would probably use the layout with the best ergonomic possibilities and use of space. That is most likely how it was designed.
Regards, Peter
Your delving into the such depths of research into all things below the main decks is mind-boggling. Fantastic!!! Rich
Thanxs, Rich. I could not have imagined that at the start of build either. But it's partly thanks to the info you posted.
Regards, Peter
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Looks good Peter
Making a plan with drawings is good preparation.
Regards
Henk
Making a plan with drawings is good preparation.
Regards
Henk
Thanxs Henk. Your are right. Busy with paper, scissors, glue ...... Old fashion 3D.
Regards, Peter
After looking at different options, I think I'll go for the more sober version. Also seen this sketch from The Saga I showed earlier:
Just a rectangular room with 2 bunks on either side. The cross-sectional model of the Nova-Scotia builders has that too.
I do like the separate room for the Captain. Then this could be the format:
All this is in the upper part of the hull. In order to keep a view of the interior, 2 walls and the roof will be opened up.
To starboard:
-the Captains Cabin with door and private bunk under the deck beams. In the completion, a private sink and a writing table with chair against the wall. On the walls the necessary cupboards and shelves;
-next to the Captains Cabin a 2nd bunk under the deck beams with the bench with storage spaces in front of it.
Against the partition wall with the FishHold a table. There is another bench on the starboard side.
The block of wood is the position of the stove.
To port:
-2 bunks under the deck beams with the continuous bench with storage spaces in front of it.
Against the back wall is the staircase with side partitions.
A partition wall will be built under the deck beam against which the stairs abut. With access hatch to the space behind it. In front of the wall there is also a continuous bench with storage spaces.
I will use this as a starting point. But ......Things can change during construction.
Regards, Peter
Just a rectangular room with 2 bunks on either side. The cross-sectional model of the Nova-Scotia builders has that too.
I do like the separate room for the Captain. Then this could be the format:
All this is in the upper part of the hull. In order to keep a view of the interior, 2 walls and the roof will be opened up.
To starboard:
-the Captains Cabin with door and private bunk under the deck beams. In the completion, a private sink and a writing table with chair against the wall. On the walls the necessary cupboards and shelves;
-next to the Captains Cabin a 2nd bunk under the deck beams with the bench with storage spaces in front of it.
Against the partition wall with the FishHold a table. There is another bench on the starboard side.
The block of wood is the position of the stove.
To port:
-2 bunks under the deck beams with the continuous bench with storage spaces in front of it.
Against the back wall is the staircase with side partitions.
A partition wall will be built under the deck beam against which the stairs abut. With access hatch to the space behind it. In front of the wall there is also a continuous bench with storage spaces.
I will use this as a starting point. But ......Things can change during construction.
Regards, Peter
In one of my books I read that Walters had a brass bed in his cabin as well as electric lighting. That was supported by in his last racing to get a proper trim he had the generator removed. RichAfter looking at different options, I think I'll go for the more sober version. Also seen this sketch from The Saga I showed earlier:
View attachment 273463
Just a rectangular room with 2 bunks on either side. The cross-sectional model of the Nova-Scotia builders has that too.
I do like the separate room for the Captain. Then this could be the format:
View attachment 273464
All this is in the upper part of the hull. In order to keep a view of the interior, 2 walls and the roof will be opened up.
To starboard:
-the Captains Cabin with door and private bunk under the deck beams. In the completion, a private sink and a writing table with chair against the wall. On the walls the necessary cupboards and shelves;
-next to the Captains Cabin a 2nd bunk under the deck beams with the bench with storage spaces in front of it.
Against the partition wall with the FishHold a table. There is another bench on the starboard side.
The block of wood is the position of the stove.
View attachment 273465
To port:
-2 bunks under the deck beams with the continuous bench with storage spaces in front of it.
Against the back wall is the staircase with side partitions.
A partition wall will be built under the deck beam against which the stairs abut. With access hatch to the space behind it. In front of the wall there is also a continuous bench with storage spaces.
I will use this as a starting point. But ......Things can change during construction.
Regards, Peter
Thanxs for the info, Rich. In the half-model I saw also the ligjting in the cabin. Perhaps I can find some space for a little generator.
Regards, Peter
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But only if it doesn't upset the racing balance.Thanxs for the info, Rich. In the half-model I saw also the ligjting in the cabin. Perhaps I can find some space for a little generator.
Regards, Peter
Seriously Peter, like I said on Modelbouwforum (and this is basically also what @Dean62 suggested), your layout looks busy, but very organized and "clean". Pursuing the logical ergonomics as per Dean, makes a lot of sense. Luckily, you have a little more space to work with here.