BALDER, Vlaardingen Herring Lugger from 1912, scratch build scale 1:50 Plate-On-Frame

[Daniel20]

The Black & Decker Workmate are as handy as a shirt pocket. I love mine.

 

[Peter Voogt]

The Black & Decker Workmate are as handy as a shirt pocket. I love mine.

That’s for sure, Daniel. Love mine as weld. If that ‘friend’ could talk ………. and tell you where it was use for ……..
Regards, Peter

 

[Maarten]

Hi Peter,

Luckely you can lower the mast, otherwise it won't fit in the car to Hamburg
Looks great again.

 

[Peter Gutterman]

To be able to make the chainplates and place them in the right place, I decided to make the masts first.

Among the drawing files I received from the Vlaardingen Foundation was a drawing for all the masts and gaffs:
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The mizzen mast has a square foot, 200 mm, that extends to around 660 mm all the way to the deck. But when making the stub, I had already shown this photo from the Amsterdam restoration book:
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It clearly shows that the mast foot tapers from square to round with the same diameter.

I made the square feet for both masts on the cross table:
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My Admiral enjoyed watching me concentrate:
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Always checking if the foot would fit in the mast socket.

The square parts on 2/3 of the masts were also turned to the correct position and size:
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The cushions for the shrouds will be placed there later.

The mizzen mast was turned to the correct size of 6.6 mm at deck height:
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The bed of the Proxxon DB250 is too short for the masts. Here's the shorter mizzen mast. I ordered an extra bed from the Proxxon representative in the Netherlands for a reasonable price. It will arrive today or tomorrow.

I also made a support for the longer pieces:
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I still had some pieces of plexiglass left over from the display cases I'd already made. I glued everything together with chloroform. And some spare bearings from my roller skates are now getting a second life.
Regards, Peter

Brilliant

 

[Peter Voogt]

Hi Peter,

Luckely you can lower the mast, otherwise it won't fit in the car to Hamburg
Looks great again.

Thanks, Maarten. We will see how see is doing in oktober.
Regards, Peter

 

[Peter Voogt]

Brilliant

Just some drawings, pictures and ideas from others …….
Regards, Peter

 

[Herman]

I have installer the 2nd bed. Here in it’s full length:
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With all fittings and the shorter mizzen mast in place:
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I can adjust the support along its entire length, ensuring it's supported wherever I need it. The €30 investment is more than worth it.
Regards, Peter

What an ingenious idea for lengthening that bed. What is the maximum workable length now?

 

[Peter Voogt]

What an ingenious idea for lengthening that bed. What is the maximum workable length now?

Hi Herman. If I slide the plate with the center to the most possible right side, the it’s 66 cm to the 3-claw. Then it depends on how much length you can feed through the 10 mm opening in the housing via the claw.
Regards, Peter

 

[serikoff]

I have installer the 2nd bed. Here in it’s full length:
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With all fittings and the shorter mizzen mast in place:
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I can adjust the support along its entire length, ensuring it's supported wherever I need it. The €30 investment is more than worth it.
Regards, Peter

Great job. And I love your fleet of vehicles, I'd love to have one like that.

 

[Peter Voogt]

Great job. And I love your fleet of vehicles, I'd love to have one like that.

Thanks, Sergey. The bikes and car are great kits and fun to build.
Regards, Peter

 

[Peter Voogt]

After many hours of lathing and sanding on the lathe, where I was a bit too enthusiastic on the first attempt at the mizzen mast, removing too much wood in one spot and having to start over, these two "magic wands" finally emerged:

The main mast is 38.6 cm long, 8.6 mm at the foot, 6.9 mm at the square par, and 2 mm at the top.
The mizzen mast is 33.6 cm long, 6.6 mm at the foot, 5.5 mm at the square part, and 2 mm at the top.

First, everything was inserted into the port section. The main mast fits neatly into the mast tube and kossing:

The lowered main mast now falls neatly alongside the mizzen mast, where it will soon be pulled against the shroud ropes:

The inset shows the crossing photographed from a bit further forward.

Even with both parts together, everything fits:

The hatch that closes the kossing when the mast is standing has been set aside.

Of course, it's also important that both masts are straight. In position of each other and in relation to the ship:

That was a great relief.

With another photo showing her actual dimensions:


I'm already busy with the inventory of the standing and running rigging. 60 blocks are being used. Now I can determine the length of all the lines so I can place the order for those as well.
Regards, Peter

 

[dockattner]

Bravo, Peter! An important accomplishment for the overall look of the model.

 

[serikoff]

Thanks, Sergey. The bikes and car are great kits and fun to build.
Regards, Peter

I meant that you have cool machines for making masts and other things. This is all a translator.
Everything you do is really cool.

 

[Daniel20]

After many hours of lathing and sanding on the lathe, where I was a bit too enthusiastic on the first attempt at the mizzen mast, removing too much wood in one spot and having to start over, these two "magic wands" finally emerged:
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The main mast is 38.6 cm long, 8.6 mm at the foot, 6.9 mm at the square par, and 2 mm at the top.
The mizzen mast is 33.6 cm long, 6.6 mm at the foot, 5.5 mm at the square part, and 2 mm at the top.

First, everything was inserted into the port section. The main mast fits neatly into the mast tube and kossing:
View attachment 569989
The lowered main mast now falls neatly alongside the mizzen mast, where it will soon be pulled against the shroud ropes:
View attachment 569990
The inset shows the crossing photographed from a bit further forward.

Even with both parts together, everything fits:
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The hatch that closes the kossing when the mast is standing has been set aside.

Of course, it's also important that both masts are straight. In position of each other and in relation to the ship:
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That was a great relief.

With another photo showing her actual dimensions:
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I'm already busy with the inventory of the standing and running rigging. 60 blocks are being used. Now I can determine the length of all the lines so I can place the order for those as well.
Regards, Peter

Nice job Peter, your geometry and scale calculations are spot on!

 

[AnobiumPunctatum]

It's looking really impressive, Peter.

Before you start with the rigging you should place the model on the final stand. This minimize the change to destroy parts of the rigging, while moving to the stand.

 

[GrantTyler]

After many hours of lathing and sanding on the lathe, where I was a bit too enthusiastic on the first attempt at the mizzen mast, removing too much wood in one spot and having to start over, these two "magic wands" finally emerged:
View attachment 569988
The main mast is 38.6 cm long, 8.6 mm at the foot, 6.9 mm at the square par, and 2 mm at the top.
The mizzen mast is 33.6 cm long, 6.6 mm at the foot, 5.5 mm at the square part, and 2 mm at the top.

First, everything was inserted into the port section. The main mast fits neatly into the mast tube and kossing:
View attachment 569989
The lowered main mast now falls neatly alongside the mizzen mast, where it will soon be pulled against the shroud ropes:
View attachment 569990
The inset shows the crossing photographed from a bit further forward.

Even with both parts together, everything fits:
View attachment 569991
The hatch that closes the kossing when the mast is standing has been set aside.

Of course, it's also important that both masts are straight. In position of each other and in relation to the ship:
View attachment 569992
That was a great relief.

With another photo showing her actual dimensions:
View attachment 569993

I'm already busy with the inventory of the standing and running rigging. 60 blocks are being used. Now I can determine the length of all the lines so I can place the order for those as well.
Regards, Peter

Good morning Peter. Stunning. Harry Potter would be proud of those.... Cheers Grant

 

[Peter Voogt]

Bravo, Peter! An important accomplishment for the overall look of the model.

Thanks, Paul. I was very happy with this outcome of the overall looks.

I meant that you have cool machines for making masts and other things. This is all a translator.
Everything you do is really cool.

Translations and technical and nautical terms ……… always difficult.
Thanks for the ‘cool’ compliments, Sergey.

Nice job Peter, your geometry and scale calculations are spot on!

Thanks, Daniel. After a lot of measuring, fitting, measuring, fitting etc etc a theory and practice came (again) together. The sliding caliper has been working overtime.

It's looking really impressive, Peter.

Before you start with the rigging you should place the model on the final stand. This minimize the change to destroy parts of the rigging, while moving to the stand.

Thanks, Christian. I have plans to use the 2 wooden base plates where the 2 halves of the model are now standing. Both will come on another plate. But a rigging plan is ‘crawling’ in my head for some time …….

Good morning Peter. Stunning. Harry Potter would be proud of those.... Cheers Grant

Thanks, Grant. I'm waiting for Dobby to come around again……..
Regards, Peter

 

[DomCee]

After many hours of lathing and sanding on the lathe, where I was a bit too enthusiastic on the first attempt at the mizzen mast, removing too much wood in one spot and having to start over, these two "magic wands" finally emerged:
View attachment 569988
The main mast is 38.6 cm long, 8.6 mm at the foot, 6.9 mm at the square par, and 2 mm at the top.
The mizzen mast is 33.6 cm long, 6.6 mm at the foot, 5.5 mm at the square part, and 2 mm at the top.

First, everything was inserted into the port section. The main mast fits neatly into the mast tube and kossing:
View attachment 569989
The lowered main mast now falls neatly alongside the mizzen mast, where it will soon be pulled against the shroud ropes:
View attachment 569990
The inset shows the crossing photographed from a bit further forward.

Even with both parts together, everything fits:
View attachment 569991
The hatch that closes the kossing when the mast is standing has been set aside.

Of course, it's also important that both masts are straight. In position of each other and in relation to the ship:
View attachment 569992
That was a great relief.

With another photo showing her actual dimensions:
View attachment 569993

I'm already busy with the inventory of the standing and running rigging. 60 blocks are being used. Now I can determine the length of all the lines so I can place the order for those as well.
Regards, Peter

Masterly shaping of the masts Peter! What wood did you use for the masts? It looks like beech. I had a lot of problems sourcing some quality dowels that weren't warped or had damaged grains when I shaped them, I think I went through several meters before I was able to find some good pieces of suitable length.

Only 60 blocks - I could only wish - I have 730 to rig!

Dom

 

[Peter Voogt]

Masterly shaping of the masts Peter! What wood did you use for the masts? It looks like beech. I had a lot of problems sourcing some quality dowels that weren't warped or had damaged grains when I shaped them, I think I went through several meters before I was able to find some good pieces of suitable length.

Thanks, Dom. It is indeed beech. I checked a lot of pieces at the store and it was hard to find 2 almost straight 1 meter examples of the 12 mm en 10 mm. Most of them were warped. From the ones I had I was able to get the desired lengths.

Only 60 blocks - I could only wish - I have 730 to rig!
Dom

Haha, that's why the Cutty Sark in still on my list, to build her fully rigged. But whether that will happen .........
Regards, Peter

 

[Peter Voogt]

Good morning Peter. Stunning. Harry Potter would be proud of those.... Cheers Grant

I'm waiting for Dobby to come around again……..

Guess who was suddenly there again...

He had to check if the wands were strong enough. I did warn him to hold on tight. He simply said, "Dobby knows..."
PS: For those of you thinking 'What is this nonsense'......--> Dobby <-- (Click) was visiting earlier......
Regards, Peter