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Thanks Chris. My first attempt was difficult to say the least. I like the clothes pin application as I have quite a few here I can use. Keep up the good work.
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H.M.S. Victory by Caldercraft - Build Log
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Excellent work!
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FINALLY! I have completed all of the ratlines. Like the copper plating, it is just something you have to grind out...one thread/plate at a time!
At least with the ratlines, I didn't ruin my fingertips with CA glue!
Now I have the blueprint sheets spread out all over. I have the rigging instructions on my computer, pictures of other builds for help and The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships and HMS Victory, Her Construction, Career & Restoration open with all kinds of page markers sticking out.
I have to refresh my myself as to where I was headed next after the ratlines. I had such good plans back last April and now I have to rethink them all.
First, I'm going to install the jibboom and flying jibboom, all of the stays that are attached to them. I have to remake the dolphin striker and jackstaff as I misplaced them. I want to create jibboom travelers and figure out how to adapt them to the model.
I am remembering that the instructions are very vague and I was relying on Longridge's book for a lot of my future work with the yards.
Happy New Year to all!
Chris
At least with the ratlines, I didn't ruin my fingertips with CA glue!
Now I have the blueprint sheets spread out all over. I have the rigging instructions on my computer, pictures of other builds for help and The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships and HMS Victory, Her Construction, Career & Restoration open with all kinds of page markers sticking out.
I have to refresh my myself as to where I was headed next after the ratlines. I had such good plans back last April and now I have to rethink them all.
First, I'm going to install the jibboom and flying jibboom, all of the stays that are attached to them. I have to remake the dolphin striker and jackstaff as I misplaced them. I want to create jibboom travelers and figure out how to adapt them to the model.
I am remembering that the instructions are very vague and I was relying on Longridge's book for a lot of my future work with the yards.
Happy New Year to all!
Chris
Congratulations on getting past the ratlining milestone!
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Hi Chris - stumbled across this thread today and thoroughly enjoyed watching your build develop. Can't believe it's your first build. You Sir, have the mighty kahoonas to even attempt it! The result looks amazing though, despite the challenges the ship has thrown at you. Thanks for keeping the log going too, it's easy to lose motivation and we're all grateful to see it progress so well!
Chris (the BlueBear)
Chris (the BlueBear)
Hi Chris. Nice one. I can’t remember how many clove hitches we have to tie but it felt like a gazillion
. She is starting to look very impressive. Cheers Grant
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Chris
Appreciate the kind words!
My build is NO WAY near perfect or even on par with more experienced builders...BUT.... I am happy when I look at it and that will be all that matters.
There are some absolutely phenomenal Victory builds out there and I envy their craftsmanship. They are the ones that inspire me to keep hacking away!
...and I think your quote says it all!
Happy New Year
Chris
Did you use clove hitches for your ratlines? They look rather small for those. Very neat though.
Don't sell yourself short. Your build is clean and detailed. It's the time you spend with getting the details juswt the way you want them that make an average model look top notch.
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Those are Hand-Made REAL AUTHENTIC clove hitches, Mike. Not AI. I Googled them.
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Alrighty!
I shipped the jibboom and flying jibboom, added the dolphin striker and the jib jack staff. I was also able to add the jib stay and jib halyard.
Now I took a stab at actually creating traveler rings for the jibboom and flying jibboom.
The jib halyard should have been attached to my traveler ring, but I followed the directions. I may redo it and try to use the ring, but for now it's done.
I also added the three martingales. I'm not sure if I did them right, but manual seems to say that all 3 are tied off at the knightheads under the beakhead platform and then are strung to various 3mm single blocks, through one of the 3 holes of the dolphin striker and tied off at the jib or flying jibboom.
I also tried making coils of line for the jib stay and jib halyard. I'll keep working on those. You can see one is a typical sailboat style coil and the other is more of a 'garden hose' style. The former is neat and tidy but would be very slow to undo in a hurry. I'll keep experimenting.
I also know that I kind of rigged the blocking for the stay and halyard incorrectly. Some of it was because the manual asks that you add the single blocks to the platforms earlier in the build. The problem is that since these are single blocks, they should have the lashing beginning on them....the lashing goes up to the double block, back down and through the single block, back up to the open hole of the double block and then all the way down to be secured on one of the bit pins.
To get around that, I tied the lashing UNDER the single block on the eyelet. It's not right, and it twists the block up.
I also added the man ropes and horses. I may try to shape them with watered down white glue and see if they look a bit better.
The only open line is for the Fore Top gallant Flagstaff Stay. I thought I had already installed that one, but this one says it runs from the top of the fore mast down to the end of the flying jibboom, to the very bottom of the dolphin striker back to the fore stay collar. I will have to circle back around and see what I did wrong there.
Finally I will have to reinstall the boomkins and begin rigging them. I just want to double check what's needed.
I shipped the jibboom and flying jibboom, added the dolphin striker and the jib jack staff. I was also able to add the jib stay and jib halyard.
Now I took a stab at actually creating traveler rings for the jibboom and flying jibboom.
The jib halyard should have been attached to my traveler ring, but I followed the directions. I may redo it and try to use the ring, but for now it's done.
I also added the three martingales. I'm not sure if I did them right, but manual seems to say that all 3 are tied off at the knightheads under the beakhead platform and then are strung to various 3mm single blocks, through one of the 3 holes of the dolphin striker and tied off at the jib or flying jibboom.
I also tried making coils of line for the jib stay and jib halyard. I'll keep working on those. You can see one is a typical sailboat style coil and the other is more of a 'garden hose' style. The former is neat and tidy but would be very slow to undo in a hurry. I'll keep experimenting.
I also know that I kind of rigged the blocking for the stay and halyard incorrectly. Some of it was because the manual asks that you add the single blocks to the platforms earlier in the build. The problem is that since these are single blocks, they should have the lashing beginning on them....the lashing goes up to the double block, back down and through the single block, back up to the open hole of the double block and then all the way down to be secured on one of the bit pins.
To get around that, I tied the lashing UNDER the single block on the eyelet. It's not right, and it twists the block up.
I also added the man ropes and horses. I may try to shape them with watered down white glue and see if they look a bit better.
The only open line is for the Fore Top gallant Flagstaff Stay. I thought I had already installed that one, but this one says it runs from the top of the fore mast down to the end of the flying jibboom, to the very bottom of the dolphin striker back to the fore stay collar. I will have to circle back around and see what I did wrong there.
Finally I will have to reinstall the boomkins and begin rigging them. I just want to double check what's needed.
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Appreciate that!
I was nervous to pick this model to do but I'm glad I did and I have enjoyed it so far (most days!)
I'm not a fan of onions so I've never had a garbage plate. They are certainly very popular here and while Nick Tahoe's is the original, it seems like most burger joints in our area have their own version. I like Tom Wahls too but Bill Grays and Schallers are closer to where I live.
Wow, just catching up on your build log, wonderful work.
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Finished with all of the martingales and added the boomkins back onto the bow deck.
I hadn't added the eye bolts for the standing ends of the boomkin stays. There are 2 that create tension for these spars on each side.
All I did was file a small groove 10mm from the end of each boomkin and created a loop around them and tied them off to the hull.
While working on the next set of tasks, I saw a picture of a 'bumpkin' that rather had one continuous line with a strop in the middle that attached to the bottom of the boomkin. This will counter tension created by the tacks of the foresails...in the real world.
Too late and all I did was create a tied loop and then secured to the hull. I have to touch up the eyelets.
I hadn't added the eye bolts for the standing ends of the boomkin stays. There are 2 that create tension for these spars on each side.
All I did was file a small groove 10mm from the end of each boomkin and created a loop around them and tied them off to the hull.
While working on the next set of tasks, I saw a picture of a 'bumpkin' that rather had one continuous line with a strop in the middle that attached to the bottom of the boomkin. This will counter tension created by the tacks of the foresails...in the real world.
Too late and all I did was create a tied loop and then secured to the hull. I have to touch up the eyelets.
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The next task was to finish off bowsprit shrouds and bobstays.
I needed to create seven 5mm deadeyes, so there is a lot of minutia labor involved in just putting these together and then lashing them to the deadeyes I already secured to the bowsprit. Because I hadn't worked on deadeyes since last year, I had to dig out the blueprint plan that showed how to correctly lash two deadeyes together. You know what has become the biggest pain????!!!!! I have all these open and used blueprints stacked all over and all of the used ones are folded every which way based on what I needed at the time. So when I need plan #11, I spend 10 minutes hunting them down. I've resorted to writing plan numbers all over each as I use them!!!!
I do have an big easel, but I have the deck belaying plan posted there so I can see at a glance where I need to finalize running rigging.
The bowsprit shrouds are fairly self explanatory. I hadn't added the copper eyelets so it took some time to try and get them even.
Moving to the bobstays the plans seem 'off'.
The bobstays are the three lines that run from deadeyes that are attached under the bowsprit and go to the two pre-drilled holes in bow.
But...the third one is confusing. The plan looks like it might go to an eyelet at the bow or it might end in an ring and then a line goes through the ring and is attached to both sides of the hull.
Even 2 of the books I have offer different opinions:
The first is McKay's book, you can see that #3 are the shrouds I'm dealing with. They end at the bow, I know it looks like they go on, but that is #14 which is part of the boomkin.
The other is McGowan's book and is similar to Caldercraft's plans.
So.....I went live!
In those pics there is a 3rd hole for the foremost bobstay.
So that is what I did.
With those tasks finished, I am on to putting up the various yards.
I have them all pretty close to done. But I see that I haven't added the blocks yet, so I will go through the plans and add all of the blocks for the fore yards.
Then I plan on using Longridge's book to help guide me through installing the yards in tandem with the instructions....fingers crossed!!!!
I needed to create seven 5mm deadeyes, so there is a lot of minutia labor involved in just putting these together and then lashing them to the deadeyes I already secured to the bowsprit. Because I hadn't worked on deadeyes since last year, I had to dig out the blueprint plan that showed how to correctly lash two deadeyes together. You know what has become the biggest pain????!!!!! I have all these open and used blueprints stacked all over and all of the used ones are folded every which way based on what I needed at the time. So when I need plan #11, I spend 10 minutes hunting them down. I've resorted to writing plan numbers all over each as I use them!!!!
I do have an big easel, but I have the deck belaying plan posted there so I can see at a glance where I need to finalize running rigging.
The bowsprit shrouds are fairly self explanatory. I hadn't added the copper eyelets so it took some time to try and get them even.
Moving to the bobstays the plans seem 'off'.
The bobstays are the three lines that run from deadeyes that are attached under the bowsprit and go to the two pre-drilled holes in bow.
But...the third one is confusing. The plan looks like it might go to an eyelet at the bow or it might end in an ring and then a line goes through the ring and is attached to both sides of the hull.
Even 2 of the books I have offer different opinions:
The first is McKay's book, you can see that #3 are the shrouds I'm dealing with. They end at the bow, I know it looks like they go on, but that is #14 which is part of the boomkin.
The other is McGowan's book and is similar to Caldercraft's plans.
So.....I went live!
In those pics there is a 3rd hole for the foremost bobstay.
So that is what I did.
With those tasks finished, I am on to putting up the various yards.
I have them all pretty close to done. But I see that I haven't added the blocks yet, so I will go through the plans and add all of the blocks for the fore yards.
Then I plan on using Longridge's book to help guide me through installing the yards in tandem with the instructions....fingers crossed!!!!
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Spent 2-3 hours today working on the fore yard. While I thought I had most of the yards complete, I realize now that all of the running blocks hadn't been installed.
Yikes!
I purchased aftermarket blocks last year from Dry-Dock Models. Their prices are fair and they ship out very quickly. I haven't bothered staining them but I just love the look of them compared to the square sad sack things that came with the kit.
I didn't like the kits method of creating a strop to tie the yards to the masts with fake knots to simulate thimbles. There are plans in Longridge's book that show the strop is 2 parts, one tied to the yard and the other tied to the mast. I like the look of that and am using pictures of other builds to try and create that.
I haven't started that yet, but did try to add on the larger blocks to the yard. I think I made the lashing from the base of the block too long because all of the examples I have seen show the lashings in front of the yard. I will have to do the second one the same on this yard and do better on the rest.
I also had to create a double block fiddle which seemed to work out ok.
I still need to paint the horse braces.
Hopefully I am encountering a learning curve and things will go more smoothly as I see what needs to be done for each of the yards.
...so far...so good!
Yikes!
I purchased aftermarket blocks last year from Dry-Dock Models. Their prices are fair and they ship out very quickly. I haven't bothered staining them but I just love the look of them compared to the square sad sack things that came with the kit.
I didn't like the kits method of creating a strop to tie the yards to the masts with fake knots to simulate thimbles. There are plans in Longridge's book that show the strop is 2 parts, one tied to the yard and the other tied to the mast. I like the look of that and am using pictures of other builds to try and create that.
I haven't started that yet, but did try to add on the larger blocks to the yard. I think I made the lashing from the base of the block too long because all of the examples I have seen show the lashings in front of the yard. I will have to do the second one the same on this yard and do better on the rest.
I also had to create a double block fiddle which seemed to work out ok.
I still need to paint the horse braces.
Hopefully I am encountering a learning curve and things will go more smoothly as I see what needs to be done for each of the yards.
...so far...so good!
Thos details are noticeable, well worth the effort. Nice !
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Lovely work as usual, thanks for posting. Can you explain the 2 part strop thing? As a Newby I've wondered more than once the proper way to rig this bit. (I really must buy the Longridge book!)