USS Constitution by Model Shipways 1:76 scale

Hello Tony,

Thx for the info but I would like to get your photo's: I solved it meanwhile.

An update on my part: today I finished the Transom as well as completed the Main Wale.
You will see that I (see stern) sanded the Main Wale flush with the Transom....
Everything has also been roughly sanded...in anticipation of the fine work.

I read in your previous message that you were going to figure out how to place the Main Wale.
I did it the following way:

The main wale consists of 7 strips (1/8" x 3/32"). I measured the distance on each bulkhead (sheet 3) and divided it by 7. This distance is the width of each strip on the respective bulkhead. So it's just a matter of sanding the strips to the correct width.
Special attention is needed for the Stern: here the strips are each 3/64" wide and should be bent slightly.
The same applies for the bow. I applied three strips
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bulkhead L-Stern
bulkhead A-F
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Hi Marc,
You are doing a great job, I am following with a big interest.

I have been working on the same model, but mine is not a kit. I am building the model from scratch using the plans from this kit.
I have a question if you don't mind.

From what I see, when you did the main wale, you tapered the planks in the stern and bow. Is this necessary? I was thinking to start the tapering from the bottom of the main wale. Thanks.
 
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HMSFly said:
Hello Tony,

Thx for the info but I would like to get your photo's: I solved it meanwhile.

An update on my part: today I finished the Transom as well as completed the Main Wale.
You will see that I (see stern) sanded the Main Wale flush with the Transom....
Everything has also been roughly sanded...in anticipation of the fine work.

I read in your previous message that you were going to figure out how to place the Main Wale.
I did it the following way:

The main wale consists of 7 strips (1/8" x 3/32"). I measured the distance on each bulkhead (sheet 3) and divided it by 7. This distance is the width of each strip on the respective bulkhead. So it's just a matter of sanding the strips to the correct width.
Special attention is needed for the Stern: here the strips are each 3/64" wide and should be bent slightly.
The same applies for the bow. I applied three strips
bulkhead F-K
bulkhead L-Stern
bulkhead A-F
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Hi Marc your whales look very good I hope mine will be the same.
Did you notice a variation in the width of the planks? mine went from +0.02 - +.005" with a rough finish.
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This caused two problems one gaps between the plank and when I put 7 planks together to make up the whales it's 1/16" oversize.
In the end I decided the best way was to machine them all to 1/8". This was done using a Dremel in a router attachment.
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I've marked the frames from the drawings and attached the first three rows.
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Tony.
 
mtbediz1 said:
Hi Marc,
You are doing a great job, I am following with a big interest.

I have been working on the same model, but mine is not a kit. I am building the model from scratch using the plans from this kit.
I have a question if you don't mind.

From what I see, when you did the main wale, you tapered the planks in the stern and bow. Is this necessary? I was thinking to start the tapering from the bottom of the main wale. Thanks.
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You're model is fantastic I wish I had the skills to add the gundeck but that's a bit beyond me.
I uesd the planking plan from the drawings and tapered the whales both ends. I'm interested in seeing how you do yours.

Tony
 
Tony H said:
You're model is fantastic I wish I had the skills to add the gundeck but that's a bit beyond me.
I uesd the planking plan from the drawings and tapered the whales both ends. I'm interested in seeing how you do yours.

Tony
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Tony, thank you very much for your reply and compliment about my model. I am watching your build with great pleasure also. You are doing a great job too.

I have the same plans, but I don't see any instructions for tapering the main wale planks anywhere in the plans.

I have never tapered the wale planks in any of the models I built before and I have never seen anyone else tapering them either. Maybe this is something specific to this model

I was surprised to see Marc did this and I wanted to ask.
 
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Hello Tony,

Yes, I have also noticed the same discrepancies regarding the width and even thickness of the strips. Before gluing, I place the strips against a bubble level and then lightly sand the planks evenly....

Regarding Mustafa's question:
If you look at the plan of the Stern (or bow) you will see that they have divided the planks into different sections: the Main Wale 7 planks, and then "A" into 9 planks etc...
I therefore accurately measured the available space and determined that the Main Wale along the Stern side is only 7 * 1.3 mm or 9 mm (+- 3/8"). See red circle.
I then measured the distance for the next 9 planks which should be placed just under the counter and determined that the 9 planks do not need to be trimmed... (1/16 x 1/8" planks). So the best way to respect the layout? Am I wrong?
 
mtbediz1 said:
Tony, thank you very much for your reply and compliment about my model. I am watching your build with great pleasure also. You are doing a great job too.

I have the same plans, but I don't see any instructions for tapering the main wale planks anywhere in the plans.

I have never tapered the wale planks in any of the models I built before and I have never seen anyone else tapering them either. Maybe this is something specific to this model

I was surprised to see Marc did this and I wanted to ask.
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There's a small amount of taper at the bow and a lot more at the stern.
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The unusual part of the whale that I haven't seen before is the way it's sanded down on the lower part, fore and aft.
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Tony.
 
HMSFly said:
Regarding Mustafa's question:
If you look at the plan of the Stern (or bow) you will see that they have divided the planks into different sections: the Main Wale 7 planks, and then "A" into 9 planks etc...
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Yes, you are right, the tapering is necessary according to the plan. Apparently I didn't study the plan well.
This is the first time I've seen such a wale being made. Thanks.
 
HMSFly said:
Today I finished the A part on starboard side.
The stern went very wel, I hope you agree, but the bow was more difficult.
I sanded roughly the main wail planks down to 1/16" to fit the rabbet at the stem.....

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Excellent results, I have just finished the whale on one side and ready to start the next one. Did you follow the lines from the drawings?. I marked up all the bulkheads from the drawings but had to make adjustments to get a smooth line.
Tony
 
Tony H said:
Hi
Looking forward to seeing your Constitution build, the Bismarck looks fantastic.
Tony
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thank you. I hope my Constitution turns out as good as the ones on this post. Were you going to add sails to your model?
 
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Tony H said:
Excellent results, I have just finished the whale on one side and ready to start the next one. Did you follow the lines from the drawings?. I marked up all the bulkheads from the drawings but had to make adjustments to get a smooth line.
Tony
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Hello Tony,

I try to respect the overall dimensions as marked on the drawings. But indeed, I did small adjustments....but stay within the blue line: see pictures.
At the stern i kept the width of the strips and at the stern I tapered the strips to obtain the width as mentioned on the plan.

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Tony, concerning above drawings: I would like to add something: As you probably already noticed the strips are not laser cut and there are deviations in the strips...
so impossible to copy exactly the dimensions of the plans.... ;)
 
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